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      kenshirothefist
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      Exactly the same here with pfSense 2.1.2 on top of ESXi 5.1u2 … Has this already been identified as a bug? Developers are aware of this issue?

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        LogicalApex
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        @kenshirothefist:

        Exactly the same here with pfSense 2.1.2 on top of ESXi 5.1u2 … Has this already been identified as a bug? Developers are aware of this issue?

        No one seems to acknowledge this. The base recommendation is to use Intel NICs, but in my case I'm using all Intel NICs and the problem persists. I'm also using HCL servers using the official OEM (Dell) install image.

        This problem is still occurring on ESXi 5.5 U1.

        If it matters, I'm using Intel I350 1G NICs.

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          kenshirothefist
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          Has anybody also noticed some increased latency when using pfSense in ESXi 5.x? I haven't had time to test it, but I'm really curios weather this hight ESXi cpu load is just "cpu load issue" or does it also affect firewall efficiency (especially when multiple TCP connections are being handled simultaneously)?

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            kenshirothefist
            last edited by

            Bump. Any news on this? Anybody solved this?

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              biggsy
              last edited by

              This keeps popping up.  It might be helpful if people experiencing this problem posted a few standard things about their setup.  Then we might be able to see whether there is something common between them:

              • What is the ESXi host machine and processor?
              • Which version of pfSense and whether 32 or 64-bit?
              • How many vCPUs have you allocated to the VM?
              • How much memory have you allocated to the VM?
              • Have you  installed the pfSense packaged VM tools or the VMware-supplied tools?
              • Are you using the e1000 adapter type or something else?
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                kenshirothefist
                last edited by

                • What is the ESXi host machine and processor?

                IBM, Intel Xeon X5650

                • Which version of pfSense and whether 32 or 64-bit?

                2.1.3 64-bit

                • How many vCPUs have you allocated to the VM?

                1 CPU @ 2.67 GHz

                • How much memory have you allocated to the VM?

                512 MB

                • Have you  installed the pfSense packaged VM tools or the VMware-supplied tools?

                pfSense packaged VM tools

                • Are you using the e1000 adapter type or something else?

                E1000

                BTW: in my particular case there is very low and constant bandwidth (cca. 2 Mbps) but with thousands of active TCP connections (many small packets); currently I have only like 2% CPU load inside pfsense (cca. 50 Mhz), but cca. 1800 MHz Consumed Host CPU

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                  biggsy
                  last edited by

                  kenshirothefist,

                  Forgot to ask:

                  • Any other pfSense packages running?

                  I assume you have seen the last post in this thread https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=41647.0.  Anything like that going on in your system?

                  I should also say that I've never experienced this problem, even though I've run multiple 32 and 64-bit versions of pfSense on at least four different (HP) hardware platforms since ESXi 3.5 was released.

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                    kenshirothefist
                    last edited by

                    • Any other pfSense packages running?

                    Open-VM-Tools, OpenVPN, pfBlocker, remote logging … however, even if I disable all these packages, cpu host usage still high

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                      deagle
                      last edited by

                      • What is the ESXi host machine and processor?
                        Tried many builds of 5.1 and 5.5 with same result
                        Supermicro X8SIL
                        Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3440 @ 2.53GHz (Lynnfield)

                      • Which version of pfSense and whether 32 or 64-bit?
                        Tried 2.1.1 x64, then tried 2.1.2-3 x86

                      • How many vCPUs have you allocated to the VM?
                        Tried 1, had to bump up to 2 because if this issue, 50Mbit throughput = 70-80% of one physical core

                      • How much memory have you allocated to the VM?
                        Tried 512-2048 MB

                      • Have you  installed the pfSense packaged VM tools or the VMware-supplied tools?
                        Tried packaged tools in the past but since read not to use them. Then tried VMware-supplied, no difference

                      • Are you using the e1000 adapter type or something else?
                        Tried both e1000 and vmxnet3 (w/VMware-supplied driver), no difference.

                      Packages - Avahi, OpenVPN export util, Cron, RRD Summary.
                      It also happens on fresh install.

                      Just to be clear, you have to watch esxtop to see this issue, it doesn't show up in the guest.

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                        kenshirothefist
                        last edited by

                        @biggsy, any news regarding this topic?

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                          biggsy
                          last edited by

                          I can't see anything common between these configs and haven't been able to reproduce it any way.  Only have one machine to play with now though.

                          Have you guys checked that link about speed mismatch?

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                            kenshirothefist
                            last edited by

                            @biggsy:

                            Have you guys checked that link about speed mismatch?

                            I have auto negotiate and it negotiates at 1000 Full … Anyway, I have 20+ running VM's on this host and only this pfSense appliance is having these issues with high pCPU load, although pfSense is the only freeBSD-based VM (others are centos and ubuntu based).

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                              biggsy
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                              The worst I can do is about 93% CPU running a 120 Mbit/s download from AARNET (it's local).

                              That's with a single vCPU on a Xeon E3-1265L v2 @ 2.5 GHz inside a Gen8 MicroServer.

                              Idle the VM runs along at about 1.5% CPU  :-[

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                                deagle
                                last edited by

                                That's the thing, it has no business doing 93% of one core at 120Mbit, virtualization overhead should be minimal like with other OSes.

                                I'm starting to think that people who "don't have" this problem aren't really seeing it.

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                                  kenshirothefist
                                  last edited by

                                  Is it possible that this is related to VMware virtual machine monitor mode?

                                  http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1036775

                                  For example:

                                  datetime| vmx| MONITOR MODE: allowed modes : BT HV HWMMU
                                  datetime| vmx| MONITOR MODE: user requested modes : BT HV HWMMU
                                  datetime| vmx| MONITOR MODE: guestOS preferred modes: BT HWMMU HV
                                  datetime| vmx| MONITOR MODE: filtered list : BT HWMMU HV

                                  Where:

                                  allowed modes – Refers to the mode that the underlying hardware is capable of.
                                      user requested modes – Refers to the setting defined in the virtual machine configuration.
                                      guestOS preferred modes – Refers to the default values for the selected guest operating system.
                                      filtered list – Refers to the actual monitor modes acceptable for use by the Hypervisor, with the left-most mode being utilized.

                                  I have "automatic" for my pfsense VM and it reads like this:

                                  datetime| vmx| I120: MONITOR MODE: allowed modes          : BT32 HV HWMMU
                                  datetime| vmx| I120: MONITOR MODE: user requested modes  : BT32 HV HWMMU
                                  datetime| vmx| I120: MONITOR MODE: guestOS preferred modes: HWMMU HV BT32
                                  datetime| vmx| I120: MONITOR MODE: filtered list          : HWMMU HV BT32

                                  Therefore it is using hardware MMU and hardware instruction set virtualization … can't change it right now, but can someone test with different settings and post results?


                                  Also, is it possible that is related to using distributed vSwitch? Can someone test by using regular vSwitch vs. distributed vSwitch (again, I can't change my environment to regular vSwitch right now)?

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                                    deagle
                                    last edited by

                                    Distributed vSwitch is just an abstraction for many standard vSwitches.

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                                      kenshirothefist
                                      last edited by

                                      FYI: there is even more overhead when you go from 1 vCPU to 2 vCPU … I had 2.3 GHz CPU usage when my pfSense VM was configured with 1 vCPU (approaching to limit 2.67 GHz), then I reconfigured VM to use 2 vCPU and now I have 3.0 GHz CPU usage (probably from CPU threads trashing) ... this is really annoying ... and I really don't want to go back to physical ...

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                                        KOM
                                        last edited by

                                        I've been following this thread but didn't think it was affecting me.  Then I took a look.  pfSense tells me it's using 2% CPU.  VMware tells me it's using almost nothing.  ESXTop tells me 20%…

                                        My config:

                                        Dell Powervault NX3000 (8 x L5520 @ 2.26 GHz)
                                        ESXi 5.5U1
                                        pfSense 2.1.3 i386
                                        2 x vCPU, 2GB RAM
                                        VM version 8 hardware
                                        Intel E1000 vNICs

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                                          podilarius
                                          last edited by

                                          I have 2 pfSense VMs running (one 2.1.3 [143MHz used] and the other 2.2-Alpha [95MHz used]) and both are running with very low CPU. Both as reported by ESX and pfSense.
                                          Are you guys running powerd, I am?

                                          Edit:
                                          Meant to add my config:
                                          ASUS Server
                                          AMD Opteron 12 core processor
                                          Intel NICs on 2.1.3
                                          VMXNET3 on 2.2
                                          1024MB of memory
                                          VMTools package is installed
                                          No other packages running.

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                                            biggsy
                                            last edited by

                                            KOM and podilarius,

                                            Under what sort of network load?

                                            My CPU numbers are also low - until I start a heavy (120 Mb/s) download then they diverge very quickly.  The ESXi/esxtop numbers go through the roof while pfSense sees little change.

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