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    PfSense does not boot on VMware hardware version 11

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      ChristianHaag
      last edited by

      I just restored the backup I made before upgrading. Indeed, editing the .vmx file is a good idea, even faster, thanks.

      Of course it does not hurt running the VM with HW 10 for a while.  Maybe my post helps others to not get trapped the same way I did. Or probably someone has an idea what to do to go to HW 11.

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by

        Nonsense!!

        You have something else going on, runs fine on hardware version 11.  Why would it not?

        I did the same thing weeks ago when 6 came out.. Upgraded to 6, updated all my vms to 11.  No issues with any of the vms.  I have also been installing clean versions of pfsense for testing 2.2.1 and now 2.2.2 and they boot and install fine.  Have done this prob 10 times over the last couple of weeks.  See pftest and pfdhcptest are also both pfsense that boot up just fine on 11.

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          ChristianHaag
          last edited by

          Good to know it's working for you. Thanks for the info. Did you set up the VM recently (and have newer virutal hardware) or did you upgrade it through a couple of vSphere versions? I have for example a E1000 network adapter.

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          • johnpozJ
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by

            I just updated my post to give details.  I have multiple vms of pfsense all running on 11, why would you use e1000 when freebsd 10.1 has native support for vmx3.. But sure I can fire up a vm using that.. Give me one sec.

            edit:  Here you go pfsense on hardware 11 booting the installer with e1000, will finish the install.. But there is no issues with running pfsense on 11 that I have seen.

            edit2:  Just added it fully booted and working

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              ChristianHaag
              last edited by

              Thanks a lot. No need to look it up, thanks anyway. Your information is perfect for me to try that route.

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                ChristianHaag
                last edited by

                Thanks again for the advices. Here's what I did from that point:

                1. I cloned the pfSense VM and upgraded the virtual hardware. Result: no boot.

                2. Then I mounted the live CD as boot volume. The purpose of the test was to have a clean boot from a current version using the same VM settings. Result: no boot.

                3. As a cross check I set up a new VM (of course using HW 11) and mounted the live CD as boot volume: Result: boot.

                After the virtual hardware upgrade, many entries of the .vmx file were changed. The new VM has a third "version" of the .vmx file. 17 entries are no longer present, 2 are new. The original .vmx file roots in the inital setup of pfSense in December 2012 and I pulled it through the ESXi versions since then.

                Instead of figuring out what the "critical" differences in the .vmx file are, I think I am going to set up a new VM and restore the configuration. I'd like to change to 64 bits anyway and maybe that's a good opportunity….

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by

                  So your saying if I install to hw version ? and then upgrade it to 11 it wont boot?  What original hw version, because when I upgraded from 5.5 to 6.  I upgraded that previous pfsense to 11 and it booted.

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                    ChristianHaag
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                    Yes, that's exactly what I am saying…

                    With the first installation of pfSense in 2012 I have used the HP OEM version ESXi 5.1, Oct 2012. Filename was VMware-ESXi-5.1.0-799733-HP-5.32.5.iso. I have upgraded the hardware with each VMware upgrade since then.

                    The hardware definitions made by the .vmx file with HW 10 compatibility allow to boot from the live CD. I use the live CD for booting to replace a variable by a constant and have comparable results.

                    After I upgrade this .vmx file to HW 11 compatibility booting from the live CD hangs. What I see on the console is:

                    F1    pfSense
                    F6  PXE
                    Boot: F1
                    |

                    And it hangs exactly there.

                    A newly setup VM with HW 11 compatibility boots without issues.

                    Here are the .vmx files:

                    @.vmx:

                    .encoding = "UTF-8"
                    config.version = "8"
                    virtualHW.version = "10"
                    svga.present = "TRUE"
                    vmci0.present = "TRUE"
                    floppy0.present = "FALSE"
                    numvcpus = "4"
                    memSize = "2048"
                    sched.cpu.units = "mhz"
                    sched.cpu.latencySensitivity = "normal"
                    tools.upgrade.policy = "manual"
                    scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
                    scsi0.present = "TRUE"
                    ide1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
                    ide1:0.fileName = "/vmfs/volumes/b83a2cb3-4e9da5f9/CD-DVD-ISOs/Temp/pfSense-LiveCD-2.2.2-RELEASE-i386-20150413-2010.iso"
                    ide1:0.present = "TRUE"
                    scsi0:0.deviceType = "scsi-hardDisk"
                    scsi0:0.fileName = "mypfsense-test.vmdk"
                    sched.scsi0:0.shares = "normal"
                    sched.scsi0:0.throughputCap = "off"
                    scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
                    ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
                    ethernet0.networkName = "VM Network"
                    ethernet0.addressType = "vpx"
                    ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:50:56:b0:ce:9d"
                    ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
                    displayName = "mypfsense-test"
                    annotation = "pfSense Firewall-Gateway"
                    guestOS = "freebsd"
                    toolScripts.afterPowerOn = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.afterResume = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.beforeSuspend = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.beforePowerOff = "TRUE"
                    tools.syncTime = "FALSE"
                    tools.guest.desktop.autolock = "FALSE"
                    messageBus.tunnelEnabled = "FALSE"
                    uuid.bios = "42 30 61 ca 40 e8 63 48-09 98 a6 e8 7c 1e 61 b3"
                    vc.uuid = "50 30 a0 6b 5e cc ca 11-a5 a5 27 88 1d 3b f0 e8"
                    chipset.onlineStandby = "FALSE"
                    pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge4.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge5.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge6.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge7.functions = "8"
                    hpet0.present = "true"
                    nvram = "mypfsense-test.nvram"
                    virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
                    snapshot.action = "keep"
                    scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
                    ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "32"
                    vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "35"
                    replay.supported = "false"
                    pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
                    pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
                    pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
                    pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
                    pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
                    ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
                    hostCPUID.0 = "0000000d756e65476c65746e49656e69"
                    hostCPUID.1 = "000206d70020080017bee3ffbfebfbff"
                    hostCPUID.80000001 = "0000000000000000000000012c100800"
                    guestCPUID.0 = "0000000d756e65476c65746e49656e69"
                    guestCPUID.1 = "000206d700010800969822030fabfbff"
                    guestCPUID.80000001 = "00000000000000000000000128100800"
                    userCPUID.0 = "0000000d756e65476c65746e49656e69"
                    userCPUID.1 = "000206d700200800169822030fabfbff"
                    userCPUID.80000001 = "00000000000000000000000128100800"
                    evcCompatibilityMode = "FALSE"
                    vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "4194304"
                    softPowerOff = "FALSE"
                    tools.remindInstall = "FALSE"
                    monitor.phys_bits_used = "40"
                    migrate.hostlog = "mypfsense-test-7ce605e0.hlog"
                    sched.cpu.min = "0"
                    sched.cpu.shares = "normal"
                    sched.mem.min = "0"
                    sched.mem.minSize = "0"
                    sched.mem.shares = "normal"
                    sched.swap.derivedName = "/vmfs/volumes/51bd00ab-498d5bf2-2a9e-2c768a5419a8/mypfsense-test/mypfsense-test-7d0003a2.vswp"
                    uuid.location = "56 4d 5f 61 e8 8a bc 7b-84 67 7a f6 40 15 88 65"
                    replay.filename = ""
                    scsi0:0.redo = ""
                    vmci0.id = "2082365875"
                    cleanShutdown = "TRUE"

                    @.vmx:

                    .encoding = "UTF-8"
                    config.version = "8"
                    virtualHW.version = "11"
                    svga.present = "TRUE"
                    vmci0.present = "TRUE"
                    floppy0.present = "FALSE"
                    numvcpus = "4"
                    memSize = "2048"
                    sched.cpu.units = "mhz"
                    sched.cpu.latencySensitivity = "normal"
                    tools.upgrade.policy = "manual"
                    scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
                    scsi0.present = "TRUE"
                    ide1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
                    ide1:0.fileName = "/vmfs/volumes/b83a2cb3-4e9da5f9/CD-DVD-ISOs/Temp/pfSense-LiveCD-2.2.2-RELEASE-i386-20150413-2010.iso"
                    ide1:0.present = "TRUE"
                    scsi0:0.deviceType = "scsi-hardDisk"
                    scsi0:0.fileName = "mypfsense-test.vmdk"
                    sched.scsi0:0.shares = "normal"
                    sched.scsi0:0.throughputCap = "off"
                    scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
                    ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
                    ethernet0.networkName = "VM Network"
                    ethernet0.addressType = "vpx"
                    ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:50:56:b0:ce:9f"
                    ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
                    displayName = "mypfsense-test"
                    annotation = "pfSense Firewall-Gateway"
                    guestOS = "freebsd"
                    toolScripts.afterPowerOn = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.afterResume = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.beforeSuspend = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.beforePowerOff = "TRUE"
                    tools.syncTime = "FALSE"
                    tools.guest.desktop.autolock = "FALSE"
                    messageBus.tunnelEnabled = "FALSE"
                    uuid.bios = "42 30 61 ca 40 e8 63 48-09 98 a6 e8 7c 1e 61 b3"
                    vc.uuid = "50 30 a0 6b 5e cc ca 11-a5 a5 27 88 1d 3b f0 e8"
                    chipset.onlineStandby = "FALSE"
                    pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge4.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge5.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge6.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge7.functions = "8"
                    hpet0.present = "true"
                    nvram = "mypfsense-test.nvram"
                    virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
                    snapshot.action = "keep"
                    scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
                    ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "32"
                    vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "35"
                    replay.supported = "false"
                    pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
                    pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
                    pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
                    pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
                    pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
                    ethernet0.generatedAddressOffset = "0"
                    hostCPUID.0 = "0000000d756e65476c65746e49656e69"
                    hostCPUID.1 = "000206d70020080017bee3ffbfebfbff"
                    hostCPUID.80000001 = "0000000000000000000000012c100800"
                    guestCPUID.0 = "0000000d756e65476c65746e49656e69"
                    guestCPUID.1 = "000206d700010800969822030fabfbff"
                    guestCPUID.80000001 = "00000000000000000000000128100800"
                    userCPUID.0 = "0000000d756e65476c65746e49656e69"
                    userCPUID.1 = "000206d700200800169822030fabfbff"
                    userCPUID.80000001 = "00000000000000000000000128100800"
                    evcCompatibilityMode = "FALSE"
                    vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "4194304"
                    softPowerOff = "FALSE"
                    tools.remindInstall = "FALSE"
                    monitor.phys_bits_used = "42"
                    migrate.hostlog = "mypfsense-test-7ce605e0.hlog"
                    sched.cpu.min = "0"
                    sched.cpu.shares = "normal"
                    sched.mem.min = "0"
                    sched.mem.minSize = "0"
                    sched.mem.shares = "normal"
                    sched.swap.derivedName = "/vmfs/volumes/51bd00ab-498d5bf2-2a9e-2c768a5419a8/mypfsense-test/mypfsense-test-7d0003a2.vswp"
                    uuid.location = "56 4d 5f 61 e8 8a bc 7b-84 67 7a f6 40 15 88 65"
                    replay.filename = ""
                    scsi0:0.redo = ""
                    vmci0.id = "2082365875"
                    cleanShutdown = "FALSE"
                    vmotion.checkpointSVGAPrimarySize = "4194304"

                    @.vmx:

                    .encoding = "UTF-8"
                    config.version = "8"
                    virtualHW.version = "11"
                    nvram = "mypfsense-new-install.nvram"
                    pciBridge0.present = "TRUE"
                    svga.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge4.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge4.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge4.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge5.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge5.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge5.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge6.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge6.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge6.functions = "8"
                    pciBridge7.present = "TRUE"
                    pciBridge7.virtualDev = "pcieRootPort"
                    pciBridge7.functions = "8"
                    vmci0.present = "TRUE"
                    hpet0.present = "TRUE"
                    memSize = "2048"
                    sched.cpu.units = "mhz"
                    sched.cpu.affinity = "all"
                    powerType.powerOff = "soft"
                    powerType.suspend = "hard"
                    powerType.reset = "soft"
                    scsi0.virtualDev = "lsilogic"
                    scsi0.present = "TRUE"
                    scsi0:0.deviceType = "scsi-hardDisk"
                    scsi0:0.fileName = "mypfsense-new-install.vmdk"
                    sched.scsi0:0.shares = "normal"
                    sched.scsi0:0.throughputCap = "off"
                    scsi0:0.present = "TRUE"
                    ethernet0.virtualDev = "e1000"
                    ethernet0.networkName = "VM Network"
                    ethernet0.addressType = "vpx"
                    ethernet0.generatedAddress = "00:50:56:b0:56:23"
                    ethernet0.present = "TRUE"
                    ide1:0.deviceType = "cdrom-image"
                    ide1:0.fileName = "/vmfs/volumes/b83a2cb3-4e9da5f9/CD-DVD-ISOs/Temp/pfSense-LiveCD-2.2.2-RELEASE-i386-20150413-2010.iso"
                    ide1:0.present = "TRUE"
                    floppy0.startConnected = "FALSE"
                    floppy0.clientDevice = "TRUE"
                    floppy0.fileName = "vmware-null-remote-floppy"
                    displayName = "mypfsense-new-install"
                    guestOS = "freebsd"
                    toolScripts.afterPowerOn = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.afterResume = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.beforeSuspend = "TRUE"
                    toolScripts.beforePowerOff = "TRUE"
                    uuid.bios = "42 30 b0 f6 32 d2 59 cd-ec 7c 54 e8 8f 5a f2 45"
                    vc.uuid = "50 30 1d a6 eb 2a ef 77-cc d9 f6 14 b2 22 e5 f3"
                    sched.cpu.min = "0"
                    sched.cpu.shares = "normal"
                    sched.mem.min = "0"
                    sched.mem.minSize = "0"
                    sched.mem.shares = "normal"
                    virtualHW.productCompatibility = "hosted"
                    sched.swap.derivedName = "/vmfs/volumes/51bd00ab-498d5bf2-2a9e-2c768a5419a8/mypfsense-new-install/mypfsense-new-install-eb477cb0.vswp"
                    uuid.location = "56 4d 9a 4b 8b 38 94 1a-ed d4 ec e1 e1 ea ea 29"
                    replay.supported = "FALSE"
                    replay.filename = ""
                    migrate.hostlog = "./mypfsense-new-install-eb477cb0.hlog"
                    scsi0:0.redo = ""
                    pciBridge0.pciSlotNumber = "17"
                    pciBridge4.pciSlotNumber = "21"
                    pciBridge5.pciSlotNumber = "22"
                    pciBridge6.pciSlotNumber = "23"
                    pciBridge7.pciSlotNumber = "24"
                    scsi0.pciSlotNumber = "16"
                    ethernet0.pciSlotNumber = "32"
                    vmci0.pciSlotNumber = "33"
                    vmci0.id = "-1889865147"
                    monitor.phys_bits_used = "42"
                    vmotion.checkpointFBSize = "4194304"
                    vmotion.checkpointSVGAPrimarySize = "4194304"
                    cleanShutdown = "FALSE"
                    softPowerOff = "FALSE"

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      "booting from live CD"

                      So your not even booting from the installed VM?  Your trying to boot off the install CD?

                      Notice your using the 32bit CD?  Why not installing 64bit?

                      Why does our pfsense vm only have 1 nic?  Do you have the native tools installed on this vm that doesn't work when you upgrade it?

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                        ChristianHaag
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                        @johnpoz:

                        So your not even booting from the installed VM?  Your trying to boot off the install CD?

                        Exactly. I'm doing it a) for better comparison of the results b) because it is a cloned test VM, which should not interfere with the production VMs IP addresses c) because the behavior on the production was the same and d) because at that early stage of booting it should not make any difference.

                        @johnpoz:

                        Notice your using the 32bit CD?  Why not installing 64bit?

                        When i started with pfSense in 2009, 32-bit was the recommended. When I moved to a VM in 2012, there was no way to keep the RRD data with an architecture change. As said, this might be an opportunity to change…

                        @johnpoz:

                        Why does our pfsense vm only have 1 nic?

                        I removed the other 3 network adapters after cloning the VM to another host. But the issue is the same on the production machine with 4 adapters.

                        @johnpoz:

                        Do you have the native tools installed on this vm that doesn't work when you upgrade it?

                        The ones that come with pfSense. They are not really working well with the current version. I found another thread about it. But at that early stage of booting it should not make any difference.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          that early in your boot shouldn't know.  Do you have serial disabled in the bios of the vm.  There have been some threads about serial interface causing some really slow boots.

                          When get a chance will try to duplicate this by bringing up a vm in hw 10 version, and then installing pfsense 32 bit.  And then trying to boot the cd after upgrading to hw 11.

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