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      doktornotor Banned
      last edited by

      Yeah, again – schedule allow rules and NOT the block ones. But for sure you can keep banding your head against the wall for a couple more months. Good luck.

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      • DerelictD Offline
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        When you schedule pass rules instead of block rules are associated states automatically purged when the rule is disabled or something?

        If not I don't see the difference.  He'd also need a block rule after the pass rule.

        pass xbox scheduled
        block xbox
        pass everything else

        Instead of:

        block xbox scheduled
        pass everything else

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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          doktornotor Banned
          last edited by

          @Derelict:

          When you schedule pass rules instead of block rules are associated states automatically purged when the rule is disabled or something?
          If not I don't see the difference.  He'd also need a block rule after the pass rule.

          Yeah, the difference it that when the default is to block, then you don't need to pray for the states to get purged. There are no states, the traffic is being blocked by default until allowed. It works. Really. Try it. Scheduled block rules don't.

          @Derelict:

          He'd also need a block rule after the pass rule.

          pass xbox scheduled
          block xbox
          pass everything else

          Instead of:

          block xbox scheduled
          pass everything else

          No. He'd need

          • pass xbox scheduled
          • pass everything else but xbox
          • (default block everything, no rule needed for this)
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          • DerelictD Offline
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            Ah.  I'm not a fan of "pass/block all except x" rules.

            I still don't see the difference.

            If there are states when the block rule fires, those states are still there until cleared.
            If there are states when the pass rule expires, those states are still there until cleared.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              2chemlud Banned
              last edited by

              I have only limited ports allowed, some for the whole local subnet(s), some for each specific client. No way to have that done with scheduled allow rules without a lot of trouble.

              It is simply unprofessional to have scheduled block rules but not to care if they work.

              My opinion.

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              • DerelictD Offline
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                They work fine.  Like everywhere else, when you set a rule it doesn't affect existing states and they have to be cleared either organically or by force.

                I had to set a schedule for one of my kids once.  I just didn't sweat that everything didn't stop working exactly when the rule fired.  Worked fine and accomplished its goal even if it was a little fuzzy on exactly when everything stopped working.  All you really have to do is break DNS.  That makes about everything useless.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                  2chemlud Banned
                  last edited by

                  eeeh, leaving kiddies half the night with some games, music channels or messengers that work on with existing states for every is not "they work fine" for me. Sorry.

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                  • DerelictD Offline
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    So use cron and pfctl to kill the states.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                      2chemlud Banned
                      last edited by

                      No problem to me, as long as the -k worked properly, in the pre-2.2 era. But now I have to kill all states to make it really work. Dunno why. Always the states with

                      re1 tcp routerIP(localIP) -> remoteIP ESTABLISHED…

                      in the states tab survive the -k procedure.

                      That's not fair. :-(

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                        2chemlud Banned
                        last edited by

                        Update: selective killing of states with option -k is broken, leaves a lot of states in place, as pointed out above. No way around kicking off all users by killing all their states.

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