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    How to block in Windows10 Telemetry with pfsense

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    • KOMK
      KOM
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      No idea.

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        2chemlud Banned
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        …sometimes I really think about starting a 24/7 wireshark session on all networks... storage space is so cheap nowadays. How about an integration into pfSense?

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        • KOMK
          KOM
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          How about an integration into pfSense?

          pfSense already has a Capture Packet function.  You want Wireshark??

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            2chemlud Banned
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            But is 24/7 feasible on an embedded nano? Not really, I guess. Maybe I set up a Linux machine and start copying the whole internet traffic…

            But overall: This story really frustrates me...

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              cmb
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              Wireshark is just a GUI to pcap data, you wouldn't run that on the firewall given it has no X and will never have X. You can feed Wireshark over SSH, or run tcpdump on the firewall dumping to disk if you have plenty of disk space.

              It's extremely unlikely PCBSD is communicating with anything to do with Microsoft. Whatever telemetry blocking list you have is way over-blocking I expect. It also seems to block critical portions of Windows update, which is likely the bulk of the attempts you're seeing.

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                doktornotor Banned
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                @cmb:

                Whatever telemetry blocking list you have is way over-blocking I expect. It also seems to block critical portions of Windows update, which is likely the bulk of the attempts you're seeing.

                Yes. Things like HPHosts that block this without thinking break Windows updates.

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                  2chemlud Banned
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                  Nope, Windows update just works fine on the Win-machines in the network, no problem at all.

                  But please, it's the local IP of my PC-BSD 10 running on an old Dell Precision 670, no question about that. No Windows involved. No software other than Firefox was running a the time of the blockings in the firewall log. And the log is FULL of these blocks.

                  I REALLY have no idea what is going on here…

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                  • KOMK
                    KOM
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                    And you're sure that this PC-BSD box isn't running a browser that is trying to talk to Bing, for whatever reason?  Otherwise, I really can't see a *BSD distro needing to talk to Microsoft for anything.

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                      2chemlud Banned
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                      What could make Firefox with No-script in private mode make talk to Bing, except using Bing, is this the question? Honestly, I don't know!

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                      • KOMK
                        KOM
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                        Perhaps it's a beacon or something on some page you were on that it talking to Bing?  Some other plugin you're running?  I have no idea either, just wild guesses.

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                          2chemlud Banned
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                          … no further plugins, except Cipherfox... ;-)

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                            2chemlud Banned
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                            …btw, I did it in the past, with 2 bridged network adapters catch whole internet traffic with wireshark. Is it better to do it on the WAN or on the LAN interface of the pfSense?

                            On the WAN side the local IP the traffic is comming from should gone, right?

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                              cmb
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                              Full of blocks to where? What IP(s)? PCBSD runs from a CDN, which might also host any number of other completely unrelated things. Doubt if Microsoft is among those as I believe they use akamai, but knowing list maintainers' penchant for over-blocking, it wouldn't be surprising if they blocked an entire CDN.

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                                2chemlud Banned
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                                The specific IP in the post above, same IP again and again.

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                                  sodasam
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                                  :-\Hi,

                                  I tried to follow these instructions but pfsense is not allowing me to save these hosts as an alias or under any other type. Here is a snapshot of what I am doing https://imgur.com/XpW9uI8

                                  I would also like to block incoming tor exit nodes and I dont see any easy way to add the hundreds of IP's, does anyone know how that can be done on the command line?

                                  Can you kindly tell me the correct way to do this or how I can do it on the command line?

                                  Thanks!

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                                  • KOMK
                                    KOM
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                                    The name of the alias may only consist of the characters "a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and _"

                                    You can embed images directly here.  No need to link to Imgur.

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                                      sodasam
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                                      @KOM:

                                      The name of the alias may only consist of the characters "a-z, A-Z, 0-9 and _"

                                      Ok fine but how do I add all these urls?

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                                      • KOMK
                                        KOM
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                                        Make an URL alias.

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                                          sodasam
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                                          @KOM:

                                          Make an URL alias.

                                          That provides the same error and this:

                                          The following input errors were detected:

                                          The alias name must be less than 32 characters long, may not consist of only numbers, and may only contain the following characters a-z, A-Z, 0-9, _.
                                          You must provide a valid URL. Could not fetch usable data from 'vortex.data.microsoft.com'.

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                                          • KOMK
                                            KOM
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                                            Well, considering I have no idea what you've done, all I can say is that it works fine for me and others.  Perhaps if you posted some actual useful information about your configuration, we might be able to help you.

                                            An URL Alias is just an URL that points to a file on a web server, and pfSense will load that alias with the content of the text file.

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