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    • jdillardJ
      jdillard
      last edited by

      See one post above…I was looking at it for so long I forgot it was there.

      @jdillard:

      I also forgot to take some troubleshooting code out, so depending on how soon you upgrade you might see it at the top  :-\

      It won't be in the next snapshot though.

      And speaking of OpenVPN interfaces, I am cleaning up their names in the dropdown now.

      edit: I just bumped the version so the next one will also be showing VPN Users and friendly names for the OpenVPN servers. (as well as remove the stuff at the top)

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      • jdillardJ
        jdillard
        last edited by

        @jdillard:

        @grandrivers:

        black font is hard to read in dark theme

        I had it working for a while, but something happened with the CSS, I plan on looking into it today.

        There was a missing bracket in the CSS. I just pushed the fix.

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          heper
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          Version 	2.3-BETA (i386)
          built on Fri Mar 04 10:20:14 CST 2016
          FreeBSD 10.3-RC1 
          
          Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/www/status_monitoring.php on line 150 Call Stack: 0.0004 118996 1\. {main}() /usr/local/www/status_monitoring.php:0 Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/www/status_monitoring.php on line 124 Call Stack: 0.0004 118996 1\. {main}() /usr/local/www/status_monitoring.php:0 Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /usr/local/www/status_monitoring.php on line 200 Call Stack: 0.0004 118996 1\. {main}() /usr/local/www/status_monitoring.php:0 
          
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          • jdillardJ
            jdillard
            last edited by

            Arg, …so many test cases...so many VMs. Thanks heper! I think I just need to throw in some if statements for the openvpn stuff.

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              NOYB
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              Min: 0%
              Avg: 1%
              Max: 0%
              See attached image.

              I must have been daydreaming when that was being covered.  Could someone please tutor me before the test.

              MinAvgMax.jpg
              MinAvgMax.jpg_thumb

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              • jdillardJ
                jdillard
                last edited by

                @NOYB:

                Min: 0%
                Avg: 1%
                Max: 0%
                See attached image.

                I must have been daydreaming when that was being covered.  Could someone please tutor me before the test.

                I forget why we decided to put that code in, but I just took it back out.

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                  NOYB
                  last edited by

                  I must have been daydreaming again when this was being covered too.  Could some please tutor me before the test?
                  How can the standard deviation be greater than the maximum value of the data set?

                  Probe Interval: 15000 (15 seconds)
                  Alert Interval: 15000 (15 seconds)
                  All others default

                  dpinger output:

                  
                  loss: 0, delay: .0095890, stddev: .0079330
                  loss: 0, delay: .0091930, stddev: .0081340
                  loss: 0, delay: .0092940, stddev: .0080790
                  loss: 0, delay: .0097080, stddev: .0078550
                  loss: 0, delay: .1656320, stddev: .2779040
                  loss: 0, delay: .1651380, stddev: .2781920
                  loss: 0, delay: .1653530, stddev: .2780680
                  loss: 0, delay: .1652700, stddev: .2781160
                  loss: 0, delay: .0046320, stddev: .0013230
                  loss: 0, delay: .0055140, stddev: .0006520
                  loss: 0, delay: .0056070, stddev: .0007150
                  loss: 0, delay: .0052770, stddev: .0008860
                  
                  

                  Also see attached quality graph image.

                  2.3-BETA (i386)
                  built on Fri Mar 04 19:46:06 CST 2016

                  ![Monitor Quality Graph - Std Dev.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Monitor Quality Graph - Std Dev.jpg)
                  ![Monitor Quality Graph - Std Dev.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Monitor Quality Graph - Std Dev.jpg_thumb)

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                  • jahonixJ
                    jahonix
                    last edited by

                    I have a Nano install on a retired ALIX for testing 2.3
                    Problem is that I don't see any RRD graphs there (no menu entry to select), is that correct? I'm on a built from Feb 4th.
                    The old traffic graphs in the dashboard are still there, though.

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                    • MikeV7896M
                      MikeV7896
                      last edited by

                      @jahonix:

                      I have a Nano install on a retired ALIX for testing 2.3
                      Problem is that I don't see any RRD graphs there (no menu entry to select), is that correct? I'm on a built from Feb 4th.
                      The old traffic graphs in the dashboard are still there, though.

                      Correct, the RRD graphs have been replaced with this new monitoring graph (Status menu > Monitoring). This graph is more dynamic, lets you turn off elements you don't want, and also allows you to show two sets of data at once. (compare interfaces, look at more data for one interface, etc.).

                      RRD is still collecting the data that is presented in this new graph, but it's not generating the images anymore.

                      The S in IOT stands for Security

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                      • jahonixJ
                        jahonix
                        last edited by

                        Thanks, even I found it now.
                        Was looking at "System" for "Monitoring", not at "Status" …

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                          biggsy
                          last edited by

                          WRT to NOYB's screenshot above, the units on some of the graphs and tables are a bit . . . strange.

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                          • jahonixJ
                            jahonix
                            last edited by

                            A) Is there a plan to convert the dashboard traffic graphs to the new "Interactive Graphs" as well?

                            B) two horizontal grids are "a bit" hard to work with. There should only be one grid at a time, scaling the axis accordingly. (see screenshot)

                            C) Black as text color was already mentioned not being perfect. Maybe we can have the grid in black to get better contrasts. Currently the white grid is the dominant color, making it harder than necessary to read the graphs itself.
                            The color scheme in NOYB's screenshot is OK, I'm probably just seeing a CSS issue.

                            ![Bildschirmfoto 2016-03-06 um 01.53.07.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/Bildschirmfoto 2016-03-06 um 01.53.07.png)
                            ![Bildschirmfoto 2016-03-06 um 01.53.07.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Bildschirmfoto 2016-03-06 um 01.53.07.png_thumb)

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                            • dennypageD
                              dennypage
                              last edited by

                              The delay number isn't the maximum value of the set, it is the mean average of the set. Dpinger reports average and standard deviation values against the entire set the same way ping does in its summary.

                              Standard deviation is the square root of the variance, which is based upon squares of the offset from the mean. Use of squares means that the result can be higher than the mean.You can read the lengthy discussion of standard deviation on Wikipedia, or you can use one of the on-line calculators to experiment.

                              Here is one that spells stuff out: http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/standard-deviation-calculator.html

                              Put "2,2,2,2,2,20" for the numbers and start experimenting from there.

                              Sorry about the cuteness of the page :)

                              @NOYB:

                              How can the standard deviation be greater than the maximum value of the data set?

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                                NOYB
                                last edited by

                                Yes I know std dev can be greater than the mean.  Because of the graph/table labels it seems to indicate that it is greater than the max.

                                So the graph/data table "delay" label is not very accurate.
                                Delay is really average delay.  Thus in the data table the min, avg, max, columns actually contain min avg delay, avg avg delay, max avg delay.

                                Labeling the std dev row as "stddev of delay" seems to indicate that it is the std dev of the row labeled "delay".  Which would be more accurately labeled "avg of delay".

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                                  NOYB
                                  last edited by

                                  Sometimes the quality graph ends with zero.  I know this was corrected a while back but sometimes it still happens.

                                  Kind of makes the minimum column useless.

                                  ![Quality End Zero.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Quality End Zero.jpg)
                                  ![Quality End Zero.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Quality End Zero.jpg_thumb)

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                                    NOYB
                                    last edited by

                                    Changed to all default settings from:
                                    Probe Interval: 15000
                                    Alert Interval: 15000
                                    All others default

                                    And this was the result.  See attached image.

                                    But running dpinger -f at command line reports std dev consistently between 700 and 800 microseconds.  Which is consistent with the gateways widget reporting.

                                    ![Change to Defaults.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Change to Defaults.jpg)
                                    ![Change to Defaults.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Change to Defaults.jpg_thumb)

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                                      Clown
                                      last edited by

                                      Thanks, Monitoring works now.

                                      There should be some rounding of the values, see the attached Picture.

                                      Edit:
                                      This happens just when the 'Timer period' is greater than 1day.

                                      monitoring_floats.PNG
                                      monitoring_floats.PNG_thumb

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                                        Harvy66
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                                        @dennypage:

                                        The delay number isn't the maximum value of the set, it is the mean average of the set. Dpinger reports average and standard deviation values against the entire set the same way ping does in its summary.

                                        Standard deviation is the square root of the variance, which is based upon squares of the offset from the mean. Use of squares means that the result can be higher than the mean.You can read the lengthy discussion of standard deviation on Wikipedia, or you can use one of the on-line calculators to experiment.

                                        Here is one that spells stuff out: http://www.mathsisfun.com/data/standard-deviation-calculator.html

                                        Put "2,2,2,2,2,20" for the numbers and start experimenting from there.

                                        Sorry about the cuteness of the page :)

                                        @NOYB:

                                        How can the standard deviation be greater than the maximum value of the data set?

                                        Should probably add a "*" and have a note of something like "*all reported values are aggregated over a rolling window". "Min" and "Max" are a bit deceiving when they'er averages themselves. Not in a bad way, but in a non-intuitive way that can cause confusion with some datasets.

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                                          samoth
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                                          Any reason why my graphs wouldn't have any data?  No matter what I pick in settings, I get 0 for values in the graph.

                                          2016-03-06_140325.png
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                                            grandrivers
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                                            packet loss should be red in color

                                            pfsense plus 25.03 super micro A1SRM-2558F
                                            C2558 32gig ECC  60gig SSD

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