2.3 Monitor Graph Questions

Harvy66

It doesn't seem to auto-update itself like it used to. Have to manually refresh.
Not collapsing from bits/s to an Kb/Mb/etc?
I reimported my RRD and notcied Quality Std-dev went away. Of course historical data won't have it because it wasn't tracked, but how long until the new data starts showing up? When I had an empty RRD after the upgrade, it showed up immediately, as the below picture shows.
3a) Seems my Quality data has not sampled since I restored my RRD data from my old config. DPinger is working correctly and I see my Gateway (1.856ms 0.472ms 0.0% Online Interface WAN_DHCP Gateway)

P.S. If you're like me, your RRD data was missing because you need to import it back from your backed-up config file. You backed up your config, right?

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churchi

Excellent new looking interface but its just not as good as the one before since there is only one graph (2 axis) that can be shown. This is a real minus in my opinion.

I would like to see a view where all the 4-5 graphs can be displayed again on the same page. That was very handy.

I would like to add a +1 for fixing the auto update or at least allow us to have it auto update at an interval that we would choose.

Also there is no total bytes that shows up there now. i use this to track usage in a month period so i know how i am tracking. This feature is now missing. Will it be back?

@Harvy66, i am not sure what you meant about blank graphs, seems all of my data came across in the upgrade. Anything specific i should look into to check its all there? I have a backup of the .xml file and a snapshot on my VM.

Harvy66

When I did my upgrade, none of my RRD data was there. Like a new install. In the first image, you can see I was playing around and saw the new Quality data. But then I restored my RRD data from my pre-2.3 backup. I got it all back, but my Qulaity data has not updated since, and I first tried to restart DPinger and waited a few minutes, but then I rebooted PFSense, and still no luck.

Harvy66

Looks like any new NTP data may be missing to. I'm just going to reset my data. historical is fun, but not important.

Cleared, all looks to be working again.

edit: NTP "missing" was because of a misconfiguration with IPv6 that worked in 2.1-2.2.x, but finally bit me in 2.3.

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NOYB

re: auto update

I tried. I really, really did.

https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/pull/95

WARNING: If you apply this you are on your own. It has not been approved, is not approved, not recommended, and not supported.

churchi

@NOYB:

re: auto update

I tried. I really, really did.

https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/pull/95

WARNING: If you apply this you are on your own. It has not been approved, is not approved, not recommended, and not supported.

So the changes were not accepted? hmm. I hope they review the auto update part and add it back in.

qBaz

I'm loving the D3-based graphs, but finding two issues that don't have immediately obvious solutions.

Is there any way to use the new Status -> Monitoring graph in a dashboard widget? The Traffic Graph widget is still using the old display style.
Every time I go to Status -> Monitoring, the graph's parameters have been reset to their default values. Is there a way to save the configuration?

jimp

@qBaz:

Is there any way to use the new Status -> Monitoring graph in a dashboard widget? For some reason my Traffic Graph widget is still using the old rrdgraph display style.

Not yet. Those are not RRD graphs they use a different backend. Work is underway to convert those to a new style (for, I believe, 2.3.1)

@qBaz:

Every time I go to Status -> Monitoring, the graph's parameters have been reset to their default values. Is there a way to save the configuration?

Sure, click the wrench, then click the advanced button, then save default.

qBaz

Awesome, both counts. Clearly I haven't had enough coffee if I missed the "save" button under Advanced, sigh. Thanks very much. :D

jdillard

@churchi:

@NOYB:

re: auto update

I tried. I really, really did.

https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/pull/95

WARNING: If you apply this you are on your own. It has not been approved, is not approved, not recommended, and not supported.

So the changes were not accepted? hmm. I hope they review the auto update part and add it back in.

The auto-update will likely make it in with 2.3.1, but implemented differently. I appreciate NOYB's code, but I have refactored and also had to overcome some issues with the real-time traffic graphs that will need to be applied to the auto-update code as well.

jdillard

@churchi:

I would like to see a view where all the 4-5 graphs can be displayed again on the same page. That was very handy.

This is a possibility, but no timeline for it. There is also a chance for "quick links" to be added that will allow you to save multiple graph configurations and quickly change between them.

@churchi:

Also there is no total bytes that shows up there now. i use this to track usage in a month period so i know how i am tracking. This feature is now missing. Will it be back?

That was part of the old rrd graphing library and it was going to double the size of the image (part of the reason for the change). We are looking at the best way to get bandwidth period data back in.

tgharold

Both the ability to save links to graphs and display multiple graphs on a single page are both pretty important.

The old RRD Graphs gave me a very good snapshot of the system health at a glance (since it showed day / week / month / year all at the same time). Plus it was easy to switch between CPU, WAN, LAN, GUEST, NTP, etc. pages with a single click. The new monitoring graph system, while pretty, makes me feel like I'm trying to figure out what is going on, in the dark, while wearing mittens.

Ideally, we'd be able to create a page of graphs with as many graphs as we want on the page, but be able to switch to other pages that we have also defined.

jimp

@tgharold:

Both the ability to save links to graphs and display multiple graphs on a single page are both pretty important.

The old RRD Graphs gave me a very good snapshot of the system health at a glance (since it showed day / week / month / year all at the same time). Plus it was easy to switch between CPU, WAN, LAN, GUEST, NTP, etc. pages with a single click. The new monitoring graph system, while pretty, makes me feel like I'm trying to figure out what is going on, in the dark, while wearing mittens.

Ideally, we'd be able to create a page of graphs with as many graphs as we want on the page, but be able to switch to other pages that we have also defined.

If you go under System > General Setup and set the graph options to be open by default it speeds up switching things around and makes it a bit more obvious. At one time we intended to make that open by default.

cmb

The config upgrade process modifies the quality RRD file to add the RTTsd. Did you restore only the RRD data? In that case it won't go through the config upgrade process and hence won't update the quality RRD to have the RTTsd.

If you edit your config with viconfig and back-rev it to version 14.5, then go to Diag>Command and in the PHP Execute box, run:

convert_config();

It'll go through that upgrade process. It'll also run through all the other config upgrade steps again, but that should be safe as it won't make any changes that were already done or aren't necessary.