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    Suricata true inline IPS mode coming with pfSense 2.3 – here is a preview

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      dcol Banned
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      There has been nothing new on this project in many months. Is it dead? I certainly hope not, but I assume we are waiting on improvements to netmap which hasn't been updated in quite a while. Suricata 3.1.1 is out now and seems to be in current development.

      I could really use this package as I am sure many others are chomping at the bit for it.

      Progress preview maybe?

      Dan

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        dcol Banned
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        I guess this really is a dead project after all. It's a real shame.

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          dhboyd26
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          This desperately needs to happen… I need Inline mode so bad, I can't describe how badly I need it.  We have so much junk traffic tossed at valid IPs that perfectly good sites get blocked and many web/cloud based tools that my faculty and staff depend on become useless.

          I've tuned Suricata rules until I can't see straight, and still, valid sites get blocked.

          Come on devs, roll this stuff out!  We are all rooting for you (and whining a bit).

          Suricata 3.1.1 has been out for a while now in production, I wonder if there are still underlying netmap/driver issues causing problems with Inline mode?

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            repne
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            I installed suricata, and the installer complained about some mysql client vulnerability that will not be patched. Something to be worried about?

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              bmeeks
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              Suricata package has been updated today from 3.0_7 to 3.0_8.

              From the changelogs I see only a fix for "Suricata, a broken download should not wait forever." ,and some changes in licenses.

              @bmeeks I don't understand, why not jumping to the latest version, with latest fixes, because they are alot ?

              10x

              I have been very busy with other work outside of my volunteer package maintainer duties for Suricata and Snort.  The other work pays me, the volunteer maintainer duties do not …  ;).

              I am testing the latest 3.1.1 binary this weekend and hope to have a pull request posted very soon.

              Bill

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                dcol Banned
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                Will inline IDS be working with the latest Suricata update?

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                  bmeeks
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                  @dcol:

                  Will inline IDS be working with the latest Suricata update?

                  Hopefully better than it currently does.  The issues are pretty much all netmap related as netmap is a relatively new technology.  Suricata has had some upstream bugs reported around the netmap interface used for inline mode.  A lot of those reported issues are fixed in the 3.1.1 release.

                  Bill

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                    Wisiwyg
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                    Thank you @BMeeks!

                    Looks like there's an updated Suricata in Package Manager with the latest 3.1.1_1 version. Trying it out now!

                    Overkill - i5 quad, 3.1ghz, 8gb, 240gb SSD, dual & single Intel NICs

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                      ntct
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                      Does  latest suricata 3.1.1_1 support hyperscan pattern match ?

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                        Guest
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                        @Wisiwyg:

                        Thank you @BMeeks!

                        Looks like there's an updated Suricata in Package Manager with the latest 3.1.1_1 version. Trying it out now!

                        On which branch are you? I don't see any updates on stable branch?

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                          Wisiwyg
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                          2.3.3_dev

                          Overkill - i5 quad, 3.1ghz, 8gb, 240gb SSD, dual & single Intel NICs

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                            Guest
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                            @Wisiwyg:

                            2.3.3_dev

                            Thanks @Wisiwyg

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                              bmeeks
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                              @ntct:

                              Does  latest suricata 3.1.1_1 support hyperscan pattern match ?

                              It's not turned on yet.  That is next on my list to test.  Not sure what kinds of tweaking may be required in FreeBSD ports to get that enabled and compiling successfully.

                              Bill

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                                dcol Banned
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                                I will give inline mode a go again when Suricata 3.1.1 becomes available.

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                                  Wisiwyg
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                                  Available now… for pfSense 2.3.3x and 2.4 development versions. Not the pfSense stable, yet.

                                  Version 3.0.8 of Suricata for pfSense contains the Suricata 3.1.1_1 update - the pfSense implementation hasn't been up-rev'd.

                                  Overkill - i5 quad, 3.1ghz, 8gb, 240gb SSD, dual & single Intel NICs

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                                    dcol Banned
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                                    2.3.2-p1 is the latest version according to my dashboard. I do not risk using development versions. Pfsense is in a production environment.

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                                      dcol Banned
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                                      Lately, when I ask for status on Inline Suricata, the thread gets deleted. What's up with that? I thought this was a community forum.

                                      I will attempt more questions

                                      Is it in testing?
                                      How is the testing going?
                                      What are the issues?
                                      Why is PFsense so far behind in Suricata updates?
                                      How many people are working on it?
                                      Do you need testers, or help?
                                      Is there an ETA?
                                      Should I move on?

                                      I guess the last question depends on if this post also gets deleted, or I get banned for asking questions.

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                                        Guest
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                                        You should probably move on and do IPS on a dedicated machine running a hardend version of your favorite OS.
                                        It's not a priority on pfSense (for now) and if you haven't setup a full blown SIEM solution it's anyway a toy ;-).

                                        Regarding your questions, just search through the forum and you'll find your answers.

                                        Regards,

                                        Emanuel

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                                          dhboyd26
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                                          Not the first time I have seen that reply about a SIEM… one has nothing to do with the other.  Wanting Suricata working in inline mode on my firewall is completely unrelated to a SIEM and is definitely not relegated to "toy" status in the absense of a SIEM.  I'd love to have a serious discussion (off of the forum if necessary to reduce clutter) about this as I am not trying to throw rocks or start a flame war.  I just don't grok the relationship between running Suricata in inline mode and having or not having a SIEM.

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                                            jwt Netgate
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                                            @dcol:

                                            Lately, when I ask for status on Inline Suricata, the thread gets deleted. What's up with that? I thought this was a community forum.

                                            I will attempt more questions

                                            Is it in testing?

                                            Yes, of course.  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=118541.msg656395#msg656395

                                            @dcol:

                                            How is the testing going?

                                            Are you helping?

                                            @dcol:

                                            What are the issues?

                                            Take a look in that thread, or the FreeBSD bug tracker, below.  There are a number of reasons why this software hasn't merged into FreeBSD as yet.

                                            @dcol:

                                            Why is PFsense so far behind in Suricata updates?

                                            So far behind what?

                                            Suricata 3.1.2 was released on 7 September: https://suricata-ids.org/2016/09/07/suricata-3-1-2-released/

                                            At the moment 3.1.1 and Hyperscan are still pending in the FreeBSD bug tracker.
                                            https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=210490

                                            As is Suricata 3.1.2
                                            https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=212815

                                            As you can see by looking at that, Herr Fitchitis is hard at work to make both happen.  Given this, I don't see how any additional effort on our part would make it happen any sooner.

                                            @dcol:

                                            How many people are working on it?

                                            Which part?
                                            Are you helping?

                                            @dcol:

                                            Do you need testers, or help?

                                            We always need testers.  Thank you.

                                            @dcol:

                                            Is there an ETA?

                                            No.

                                            @dcol:

                                            Should I move on?

                                            You're welcome to stay and you're welcome to contribute.

                                            As with most things, this is your choice, not mine.

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