Question on Firewall Schedules in pfSense 2.3.2

Derelict

Doubtful. But a reinstall takes 5 minutes + packages so if you think that might be the case, it can't hurt.

thecableguy

Thanks, reinstall tonight and report.

thecableguy

I thought i would try an older config backup before reinstalling PF from scratch.

It looks like everything is working again… Scheduled blocks are fine and firewall log entries are as expected.

Previously, no LAN blocks were working and nothing was showing in the firewall logs.. Not sure what went wrong but the older config reload fixed my issues for now.

Would be nice to know what went wrong? :o

thecableguy

Ok, problem back again.. The only thing I can point to is after modifying the schedules the scheduled 'pass' rule does not seem to work. After I manually clear states, the links are broken and the schedule shows the correct status in the 'pass' rule but after another cycle, the scheduled 'pass' doesn't kill states.

thecableguy

No one has a similar issue or any suggestions?

n3by

Looks like this is an old/unsolved problem…

To solve it you can add a cron job to clear all states for that IP ( or more IP's ) after time schedule is not active with this command:

/sbin/pfctl -k IP
example:
/sbin/pfctl -k 192.168.103.100

Just remember:

first rule will allow to pass traffic on time schedule for that IP.
second rule will deny traffic for that IP.
cron will clear all states for that IP ( 1 minute after first rule is not active ).

thecableguy

Yes, seems to be an ongoing issue..

After a reboot, everything works fine for a week or so and then the states don't clear properly..

thecableguy

I am still having this issue. . I have narrowed it down to when I make a change to a schedule this problem occurs.

I have tried resetting states and reloading the firewall rules after the schedule change but after the timed block/pass, some states remain active and require a manual clearing of states.

As long astory the schedules are not altered, everything works as expected..

I shouldn't have to reboot after a schedule change?

KOM

I should hope not. If this is something you can reproduce faithfully, you could post your steps here for others to confirm, and then enter a bug at Redmine to address it.

thecableguy

Could you please have a look at my rules?

I have blocked out the kids names but what I have are all IP's setup in aliases, a bandwidth limiter and different schedules for blocking steam ports (alias again) and to completely block internet using PASS rules in the schedule.

![lan rules.JPG_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/lan rules.JPG_thumb)
![lan rules.JPG](/public/imported_attachments/1/lan rules.JPG)

Derelict

Are you sure the Steam ports being blocked should be source ports? Source ports are usually random to specific destination ports.

thecableguy

Good question, my understanding is the 'source' in this situation would be the host on the LAN, as per the rule?

The block works if applied manually and also most of the time however as I mentioned, if I modify a schedule, reload the firewall rules and reset states the scheduled block stops working and requires a reboot of the firewall..

Derelict

Source ports are almost always random. Destination ports are almost always static.

For instance to pass connections only to HTTP servers you would pass source LAN net port any dest any port 80 on the LAN interface.

thecableguy

So you are suggesting to change the port alias to destination? Like the utorrent rule I have setup in the picture?

Derelict

I am suggesting you make sure your rules match the traffic you are trying to match.

thecableguy

@Derelict:

I am suggesting you make sure your rules match the traffic you are trying to match.

I tried swapping my rules around as you seemed to suggest :-\ and nothing is blocked/filtered after changing to 'destination' in the LAN tab..

Again, my configuration does work fine except when the schedules are changed.. A reboot is required to get the new schedule to work correctly.

johnpoz

Yeah I doubt that it works with source ports..

Quick google shows these as the ports.

Steam Client

UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive (Game client traffic)
UDP 27015 to 27030 inclusive (Typically Matchmaking and HLTV)
UDP 27031 and 27036 (incoming, for In-Home Streaming)
TCP 27036 and 27037 (incoming, for In-Home Streaming)
UDP 4380.

As Derelict mentions it is almost ALWAYS any for source port, dest would be the port your looking at in firewall rules. Unless your talking say active ftp session for data where the source port is 20. Or maybe in a dns zone transfer where your talking 53 to 53, etc. The cases where you would set a specific source port are few and specific. Steam would NOT be one of them.

So not sure what you think is working.. But that rule would not work.. What do you have in your steam alias??

If your saying your schedules do not work until you reboot, my guess would be you have active states open for the traffic your trying to block and your reboot flushes them. Which you can do without a reboot.

thecableguy

@johnpoz:

Yeah I doubt that it works with source ports..

Quick google shows these as the ports.

Steam Client

UDP 27000 to 27015 inclusive (Game client traffic)
UDP 27015 to 27030 inclusive (Typically Matchmaking and HLTV)
UDP 27031 and 27036 (incoming, for In-Home Streaming)
TCP 27036 and 27037 (incoming, for In-Home Streaming)
UDP 4380.

As Derelict mentions it is almost ALWAYS any for source port, dest would be the port your looking at in firewall rules. Unless your talking say active ftp session for data where the source port is 20. Or maybe in a dns zone transfer where your talking 53 to 53, etc. The cases where you would set a specific source port are few and specific. Steam would NOT be one of them.

So not sure what you think is working.. But that rule would not work.. What do you have in your steam alias??

If your saying your schedules do not work until you reboot, my guess would be you have active states open for the traffic your trying to block and your reboot flushes them. Which you can do without a reboot.

It does work, lastnight it worked as expected..

alias.jpg_thumb

Derelict

Those rules are almost certainly wrong. Based on the information available on the steam site they are wrong.

Steam might try to use those as source ports which would cause them to pass and might try different source ports when they are blocked and fail to match the proper rules.

Look at Diagnostics > States and enable logging on those rules to see what's really happening.

You can create a pass rule from the source machines AFTER that block steam rule and enable logging on it to see what's getting passed.

thecableguy

@Derelict:

Those rules are almost certainly wrong. Based on the information available on the steam site they are wrong.

Steam might try to use those as source ports which would cause them to pass and might try different source ports when they are blocked and fail to match the proper rules.

Look at Diagnostics > States and enable logging on those rules to see what's really happening.

You can create a pass rule from the source machines AFTER that block steam rule and enable logging on it to see what's getting passed.

The rules or aliases are wrong?

If they are wrong, why are they working until I alter the schedule?