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      doktornotor Banned
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      Well no - not in Squid alone at least, since you've spliced the whole thing, so you cannot block anything there. What you'e produced is just useful possibly for logging/monitoring.

      (No idea about SquidGuard, since that thing is goddamn broken, unreadable, unmaintained mess. Just won't touch it.)

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        bbassotti
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        @doktornotor:

        Well no - not in Squid alone at least, since you've spliced the whole thing, so you cannot block anything there. What you'e produced is just useful possibly for logging/monitoring.

        (No idea about SquidGuard, since that thing is goddamn broken, unreadable, unmaintained mess. Just won't touch it.)

        :o I'm using it on nethserver :) so Yes it is possible with squid 3.5.20.

        best regards.

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          doktornotor Banned
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          Yeah, wonderful. This is pfSense forum. So, the point of this thread is exactly what? You've made a TCP tunnel out of any SSL connection in Squid. Great. Proxy invisible, traffic through. So, now what? (Again, I'm not talking about Squidguard, and I'm definitely NOT talking about nethserver or what's that.)

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            bbassotti
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            @doktornotor:

            Yeah, wonderful. This is pfSense forum. So, the point of this thread is exactly what? You've made a TCP tunnel out of any SSL connection in Squid. Great. Proxy invisible, traffic through. So, now what? (Again, I'm not talking about Squidguard, and I'm definitely NOT talking about nethserver or what's that.)

            yes i know  :) I'm asking IF it possible to obtain the same with pfsense and NOT to compare this with what, or IF in future release and I'm not ask for the moon!

            best regards.

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              doktornotor Banned
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              If you want SSL bump to have any chance of working, you need this patch on top of latest Squid package on pfSense. Now, with that patch, whatever is whitelisted should get through (spliced), the rest will get bumped (and dealth with by stuff like Squidguard or whatever else, again, not tested, will not touch). Since, that's the approach that was there from the very beginning and that made sense for users. Making a transparent TCP tunnel is not exactly the goal people are trying to produce.

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                susamlicubuk
                last edited by

                hi bbassotti

                The following topic maybe helps you

                https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=123874.0

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                  tadaog
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                  This peek and slice permits Squidguard and Squid to block https://pages according the rules set in SquidGuardian/Squid, without decoding the rest of the pages.

                  Usually it's just what everybody needs!

                  I've learned this in pratice and tried it with OpnSense (a fork of pfSense) and I've been hugely surprised how effective it is!

                  So I copied and pasted from their squid.conf the excerpt below in the Service/Squid Proxy Server/General/Show Advanced Options/Custom ACLS (Before Auth):

                  setup ssl bump acl's

                  acl bump_step1 at_step SslBump1
                  acl bump_step2 at_step SslBump2
                  acl bump_step3 at_step SslBump3
                  acl bump_nobumpsites ssl::server_name "/usr/local/etc/squid/nobumpsites.acl"

                  configure bump

                  ssl_bump peek bump_step1 all
                  ssl_bump splice all
                  ssl_bump peek bump_step2 all
                  ssl_bump splice bump_step3 all

                  ssl_bump bump

                  sslproxy_cert_error deny all

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                    tadaog
                    last edited by

                    This procedure (after activating SSL Filtering in the SSL Man in the Middle Filtering) does this job wonderfully, and WITHOUT the need of Man In the Middle Filtering, without any need of certs added to the clients.

                    Only the URL is decoded and blocked (or permitted) as configured in Squidguard/Squid.

                    I use pfBlockerNG too for the others critical blockings that need to be done on the battlefield that the Internet has become today!

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                      tadaog
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                      Sorry, I forgot to say that I'm using this without Transparent Proxy.

                      I'm using proxy.pac (and symlinks to it: wpad.dat and wpad.da) in the following way:

                      1. Installed Shellcmd, Cron, Squidguard and Squid packages.

                      2. in Services/Shellcmd, click Add
                            Add Command:
                                /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nginx onestart
                            Shellcmd Type:
                                shellcmd
                            Description:
                                2nd. instance nginx for wpad
                            and click Save.

                      3. In Services/Cron, click Add
                            Fill Minute with */3, User root and Command
                                [ -f /var/run/nginx.pid ] && true || /usr/local/etc/rc.d/nginx onestart

                      4. My pfSense firewall has LAN IP 192.168.192.1, so you change the IP to YOUR pfSense IP in the proxy.pac I pasted right after this post and use Diagnostics/Edit File to copy, paste and save in /usr/local/www/nginx/proxy.pac

                      5. Create symlinks wpad.dat and wpad.da of proxy.pac in the same directory.

                      6. Create rules to force proxy use. The clients that use Detect Automatically in the browser usually gets thru the proxy, but follow the instructions that you'll find in this forum about wpad.dat configuration in Squid.

                      7. Client browsers may be configured to use proxy by manual configuration of course.

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                        tadaog
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                        The proxy.pac I use follows:

                        function FindProxyForURL(url, host) {

                        var wpad = "DIRECT";
                          // Return wpad;  // by-pass when you wish to put Squid Proxy offline without removing proxy.pac

                        host = host.toLowerCase();

                        var hostIP;
                          var isIpV4Addr = /^(\d+.){3}\d+$/;

                        if (isIpV4Addr.test(host))
                            hostIP=host;
                          else
                            hostIP=dnsResolve(host);
                          if (hostIP != 0) {
                            if (isPlainHostName(host) ||
                                shExpMatch(host, ".local") ||
                                shExpMatch(host, ".localdomain.local") ||
                                shExpMatch(hostIP, "10.") ||
                                shExpMatch(hostIP, "192.168.
                        ") ||
                                shExpMatch(hostIP, "127.") ||
                                isInNet(hostIP, "172.16.0.0", "255.240.0.0") ||
                                shExpMatch(host, "fe80::
                        "))
                              return wpad;
                        // Main LAN
                            var myIP = myIpAddress();
                            if (shExpMatch(myIP, "169.254.*") ||
                                isInNet(myIP, "192.168.192.0", "255.255.252.0"))
                              wpad = "PROXY 192.168.192.1:3128; DIRECT";
                        // For additional LAN subnets (example)
                            else if (isInNet(myIP, "192.168.198.0", "255.255.252.0"))
                              wpad = "PROXY 192.168.198.1:3128; DIRECT";
                          }
                          return wpad;
                        }

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                          bbassotti
                          last edited by

                          @tadaog:

                          This peek and slice permits Squidguard and Squid to block https://pages according the rules set in SquidGuardian/Squid, without decoding the rest of the pages.

                          Usually it's just what everybody needs!

                          I've learned this in pratice and tried it with OpnSense (a fork of pfSense) and I've been hugely surprised how effective it is!

                          So I copied and pasted from their squid.conf the excerpt below in the Service/Squid Proxy Server/General/Show Advanced Options/Custom ACLS (Before Auth):

                          setup ssl bump acl's

                          acl bump_step1 at_step SslBump1
                          acl bump_step2 at_step SslBump2
                          acl bump_step3 at_step SslBump3
                          acl bump_nobumpsites ssl::server_name "/usr/local/etc/squid/nobumpsites.acl"

                          configure bump

                          ssl_bump peek bump_step1 all
                          ssl_bump splice all
                          ssl_bump peek bump_step2 all
                          ssl_bump splice bump_step3 all

                          ssl_bump bump

                          sslproxy_cert_error deny all

                          Thank you ! This work also with transparent proxy  :)

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                            fabiomello
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                            i am the person who did this change to opnsense, if you want and the maintaner of package accepts, i could do a pull request with this change.
                            note: it works only with domain and not with complete urls, because dont do the intercept

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                              doktornotor Banned
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                              @fabiomello:

                              i am the person who did this change to opnsense, if you want and the maintaner of package accepts, i could do a pull request with this change.

                              So, this could be pretty much rewritten to:

                              setup ssl bump acl's

                              acl bump_step1 at_step SslBump1
                              acl bump_step2 at_step SslBump2
                              acl bump_step3 at_step SslBump3
                              acl bump_nobumpsites ssl::server_name "/usr/local/etc/squid/nobumpsites.acl"

                              configure bump

                              ssl_bump peek bump_step1 all
                              ssl_bump splice all
                              ssl_bump peek bump_step2 all
                              ssl_bump splice bump_step3 all
                              ssl_bump bump

                              sslproxy_cert_error deny all

                              @fabiomello:

                              note: it works only with domain and not with complete urls, because dont do the intercept

                              Yes, that is the problem. It does not intercept. Most of the code does nothing, as indicated above. It splices everything, you are finished with the stuff after the red line marked above [1].

                              What the code in pfSense Squid attempts to do is: do NOT intercept 'Whitelist' ACL (that's what your no-op bump_nobumpsites ACL attempts to do but the code is just not used anywhere) and intercept the rest [2]

                              [1] https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/blob/devel/www/pfSense-pkg-squid/files/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc#L1539
                              [2]
                              https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/blob/devel/www/pfSense-pkg-squid/files/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc#L1826
                              https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/blob/devel/www/pfSense-pkg-squid/files/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc#L1887

                              I must be missing something here.

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                                tadaog
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                                doktornotor:

                                You patch does getting the full https URL only and wonderfully, it we put ".*" at the whitelist, so that squidguard can do its job of denying or allowing it according its rules, exactly as it does with http.

                                So, to summarize, putting in the whitelist field:

                                .*

                                and squidGuard does its jobs with http and https URLs!!!

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                                  doktornotor Banned
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                                  OK, so I guess there are no changes really required for the SquidGuard + SSL usecase. Thanks for feedback.

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                                  • jimpJ
                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                    last edited by

                                    To summarize, this does work with transparent interception without installing a CA on clients, but I can only get it to see the domain name, not the full URL as some in the thread have stated.

                                    • Squid General tab, Show Advanced Options, Custom ACLs (before auth)
                                    acl bump_step1 at_step SslBump1
                                    ssl_bump peek bump_step1 all
                                    ssl_bump splice all
                                    sslproxy_cert_error deny all
                                    
                                    • ACLs tab, whitelist:```
                                      .*
                                    
                                    When squidGuard blocks it kills the connection, it doesn't redirect or do anything nice.
                                    
                                    And naturally this doesn't let you see the body so no chance for AV or similar to check the contents.

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                                      doktornotor Banned
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                                      @jimp: As I understand the previous post, there's really no need to put anything into Custom ACLs; the code is equivalent to what we have in the package already when you whitelist everything (.*) - there's

                                      ssl_bump splice whitelist
                                      ssl_bump bump all

                                      (and the second line won't have anything to match left when you've whitelisted everything)

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                                      • jimpJ
                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        Ah, so all you need is the whitelist ".*" and the rest happens automatically? Cool. That does seem to work.

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                                          doktornotor Banned
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                                          Yeah, it's basically "supertransparent", as in - no certificates forged/no need to install certs on clients. (And yeah, obviously it's limited in sense that you just get enough info about the connection for SquidGuard to do its job, but nothing else, i.e., no content filtering/AV/etc.)

                                          Perhaps could use some hints in the GUI…

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                                          • jimpJ
                                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            Would be nice to kick that in somehow when CA = "None" when using SSL Interception, or at least allow CA = None to be set in that case. It doesn't seem like that should be necessary since it isn't going to be using the CA when acting in that role. I haven't tried it though, maybe squid is dumb and still needs it set.

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