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      doktornotor Banned
      last edited by

      @jimp: As I understand the previous post, there's really no need to put anything into Custom ACLs; the code is equivalent to what we have in the package already when you whitelist everything (.*) - there's

      ssl_bump splice whitelist
      ssl_bump bump all

      (and the second line won't have anything to match left when you've whitelisted everything)

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      • jimpJ
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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        Ah, so all you need is the whitelist ".*" and the rest happens automatically? Cool. That does seem to work.

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          doktornotor Banned
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          Yeah, it's basically "supertransparent", as in - no certificates forged/no need to install certs on clients. (And yeah, obviously it's limited in sense that you just get enough info about the connection for SquidGuard to do its job, but nothing else, i.e., no content filtering/AV/etc.)

          Perhaps could use some hints in the GUI…

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          • jimpJ
            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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            Would be nice to kick that in somehow when CA = "None" when using SSL Interception, or at least allow CA = None to be set in that case. It doesn't seem like that should be necessary since it isn't going to be using the CA when acting in that role. I haven't tried it though, maybe squid is dumb and still needs it set.

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              doktornotor Banned
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              Yeah, afraid that's a no go, the certs are really required - plus, the ACL (whitelist) can be anything there and be changed at any time,  or have lines prepended/appended, really no way for Squid to figure out it's not going to need to fake any certs.

              (But you could generate a temporary one for the CA in the background on each config resync; would need additional logic/code though in squid.inc. If you want something like this, I'd prefer having a separate checkbox for this, with some JS logic that'd gray out/disable unneeded MITM stuff in the GUI, and use a different ACL than the current whitelist for that, basically just use the built-in "all" one - like ssl_bump splice all)

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                shonjir
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                I'm running a variation of this config in transparent mode with squidguard and shallalist quite successfully.

                I'm not sure why exactly, but this configuration improves over basic step 1 peek and splice all by allowing logging of the server certificate (instead of just IP address), domain blocking of SSL sites via squidguard list, and provides an alternate splice operation for certain sites that for some reason cannot connect after the certificate name is captured.

                # peek at client TLS-request to get SNI
                # peek at server cert (for logging)
                # splice earlySplice at step 3 only
                acl earlySplice ssl::server_name "*.crashplan.com"
                ssl_bump peek step1
                ssl_bump peek step2 earlySplice
                ssl_bump splice step3 earlySplice
                ssl_bump splice all
                sslproxy_cert_error deny all
                
                
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                  doktornotor Banned
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                  Well yes, that will no doubt improve splice since you get whole lot more information available at steps 2/3, as explained here:
                  https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/blob/devel/www/pfSense-pkg-squid/files/usr/local/pkg/squid.inc#L1539

                  The above makes bumping impossible, however.

                  It's not possible to do zillion variants in the GUI. Use Advanced Options, Custom ACLs (before auth).

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                    shonjir
                    last edited by

                    The above makes bumping impossible, however.

                    This is understood.  For my use case, I don't need full blown MiTM - logging the site name and simple domain blocking are sufficient.

                    Right now I'm using custom ACLs for this.  It's a hack (because it supersedes the auto-generated ssl_bump directives that follow), but it works.

                    It would be nice if it were available as a simple toggle in the config or if the various ssl config options were exposed for customization under 'advanced', but it works reasonably well as-is.

                    Thank you for your work making this tool available!

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                      doktornotor Banned
                      last edited by

                      I'll see if something reasonable can be added for

                      • splice everything without bump (i.e., splice all)
                      • custom splice ACLs/settings (some advanced textarea burried somewhere, if you break it, your problem)

                      without overcomplicating the GUI and confusing everyone.

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                        doktornotor Banned
                        last edited by

                        OK, how's this?

                        https://github.com/pfsense/FreeBSD-ports/pull/269

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                        • jimpJ
                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                          Looks great, we're getting that PR merged in right now, thanks!

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                            doktornotor Banned
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                            Thanks for testing/feedback. Any volunteers to fixrewrite SquidGuard now? (No, I cannot do it. Tried many times, unable to work with that code for more than a couple of minutes.)

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                              fabiomello
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                              e2guardian its more active…
                              if you want to replace squidGuard with e2guardian i could do this!

                              what you think?

                              https://github.com/e2guardian/e2guardian

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                                doktornotor Banned
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                                @fabiomello:

                                e2guardian its more active…
                                if you want to replace squidGuard with e2guardian i could do this!

                                what you think?

                                https://github.com/e2guardian/e2guardian

                                Hmmm… good luck.

                                • https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=87526.0
                                • https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense-packages/pull/866
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                                • jimpJ
                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                  From the history there it looks like it had a similar problem to squidGuard. Whatever happens, it needs a ground-up rewrite with up-to-date style and practices all-around.

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                                    doktornotor Banned
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                                    Yeah. The XMLs in the linked e2guardian PR would be a good starting point to get a grip of potential feature set. The PHP code there still needs major work, though it must have been a  lot better than SquidGuard, considering I've been able to somehow finish the code style at least. :P

                                    The PHP-generated package XML is a major can of worms there.

                                    Plus note, that PR was for 2.2.x, lots of changes meanwhile.

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                                      susamlicubuk
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                                      Good job. Congratulations.
                                      Tag_none / 200 for all https and ip address is not good to appear in logs
                                      Do you have a solution for this problem?
                                      A manual DNS problem can sometimes cause the page not found error
                                      We continue to test this issue

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                                        doktornotor Banned
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                                        And the issue is exactly what? TAG_NONE/XXX means spliced connection. It works. Really nothing to fix here. This is a TCP tunnel, Squid won't handle any HTTP there.

                                        http://squid-web-proxy-cache.1019090.n4.nabble.com/TAG-NONE-xxxx-td4672150.html

                                        If you have issues with some sites, you'll need to use some custom ACL and custom config for that at the moment, I'm afraid.

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                                          susamlicubuk
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                                          @doktornotor:

                                          And the issue is exactly what? TAG_NONE/XXX means spliced connection. It works. Really nothing to fix here. This is a TCP tunnel, Squid won't handle any HTTP there.

                                          http://squid-web-proxy-cache.1019090.n4.nabble.com/TAG-NONE-xxxx-td4672150.html

                                          If you have issues with some sites, you'll need to use some custom ACL and custom config for that at the moment, I'm afraid.

                                          I have tested it for a long time on the old version
                                          I have tested the following settings
                                          I used 2 different settings

                                          acl https_proto proto https
                                          always_direct allow https_proto
                                          ssl_bump none localhost
                                          sslproxy_options NO_SSLv2,NO_SSLv3,No_Compression
                                          sslproxy_cipher ALL:!SSLv2:!ADH:!DSS:!MD5:!EXP:!DES:!PSK:!SRP:!RC4:!IDEA:!SEED:!aNULL:!eNULL

                                          TLS/SSL bumping definitions

                                          acl tls_s1_connect at_step SslBump1
                                          acl tls_s2_client_hello at_step SslBump2
                                          acl tls_s3_server_hello at_step SslBump3

                                          TLS/SSL bumping steps

                                          ssl_bump peek tls_s1_connect all
                                          ssl_bump splice all

                                          peek at TLS/SSL connect data

                                          splice: no active bumping

                                          acl bump_step1 at_step SslBump1
                                          ssl_bump peek bump_step1 all
                                          ssl_bump splice all
                                          sslproxy_cert_error deny all
                                          ssl_bump splice whitelist
                                          ssl_bump bump all

                                          There are too many reverse ip addresses in squid logs.
                                          So the lightsquid report is mixed.
                                          Maybe it's about reverse proxy.
                                          It works fine at startup
                                          But there are some page faults that are sometimes not found when using for a long time.
                                          (Google search result after clicking on page unresponsive or https sites sometimes very slow)
                                          I think squid is having trouble with https dns resolution.
                                          I only saw problems with windows pc's
                                          I have not received any errors on iOS and android mobile devices
                                          This caused the reason for not continuing with wpad for PCs.
                                          But mobile devices can use it.

                                          We can do acl setting but we need to enter too many https domain gui den
                                          A difficult and problematic job
                                          But I added some sites squid- acl- white list
                                          I'm not sure we're adding it this way

                                          ..google.com
                                          .
                                          .google.com.tr

                                          Please manually enter external dns on windows computers and test
                                          This problem is a bit strange
                                          Sometimes page not found or too slow browser problem
                                          For example 8.8.8.8 or open dns
                                          Maybe we can solve this problem with all the DNS requests with the Pfsense redirection rule.

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                                            doktornotor Banned
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                                            Please, start your own thread. DNS issues are totally off-topic here. Also, this thread is NOT about reverse proxy, at all. Thanks.

                                            Finally, as noted above and linked on the Squid ML, the log is absolutely normal, expected and there is nothing that could be done here. If you don't want things spliced, then don't use splice. If you don't want logs, don't log. If you need logs filtered, you'll need to filter them as you need. And if you want something better than TAG_NONE in logs, you'll need to get that implemented upstream.

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