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    [SOLVED] Slow PIA VPN connection on pfsense 2.4b

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      pfBasic Banned
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      Yeah you shouldn't be getting error messages even on 2.4 during boot.

      I also run 2.4.0 BETA on USB sticks in raidz2 with a RAM disk and get no error messages.

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        Runenaldo
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        @pfBasic:

        Yeah you shouldn't be getting error messages even on 2.4 during boot.

        I also run 2.4.0 BETA on USB sticks in raidz2 with a RAM disk and get no error messages.

        Hopefully this is the reason (knock on wood)  :D

        So since I have 2 USB3 ports and 2 USB2 port available, how do I go about installing?
        Because I've read somewhere here on the forum that USB3 ports are not a good idea..

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          pfBasic Banned
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          I haven't heard that?

          USB3.0 drives are often not recommended as install media because they tend to get hotter, but I don't know if that even matters.

          I would leave the drives you'll install to in the 2.0 slots and put the one with the image in whatevers left over.

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            Runenaldo
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            @pfBasic:

            I haven't heard that?

            USB3.0 drives are often not recommended as install media because they tend to get hotter, but I don't know if that even matters.

            I would leave the drives you'll install to in the 2.0 slots and put the one with the image in whatevers left over.

            Read it over on the hardware forum, but I cant find it now.

            It might just be because they get hot.

            Will try your suggestion(s) tomorrow, have ordered a screen and keyboard and if all fails with the usbs, I have a 256gb ssd I can donate to the "cause".

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              pfBasic Banned
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              Do you use a RAM disk?

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                Runenaldo
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                @pfBasic:

                Do you use a RAM disk?

                Yes, I followed your guide :)

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                  Runenaldo
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                  So during the installation of pfsense 2.4 I ran into the issue I also had the first time I installed it and that was that the installer hanged after I selected to reboot. See picture.

                  I waited aprox 10-15 mins for it to reboot and then forced it by unplugging the router. Is this normal, should I have waited longer?

                  In the next picture, this always show up during reboot. Is this normal?

                  bootstop.jpg
                  bootstop.jpg_thumb
                  ![Dump devices does not exist.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Dump devices does not exist.jpg_thumb)
                  ![Dump devices does not exist.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Dump devices does not exist.jpg)

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                    pfBasic Banned
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                    The "no suitable dump device found" error just means that you don't have swap, which is fine as long as that's the way you installed.

                    I'd try it again and leave it for 20-30min.

                    There are a few issues with reboot floating around, and there's an issue where reboot can hang for ~20min because it can't install packages but it will eventually continue the boot and then you can get packages installed once boot is complete. The 20 minute hang issue hopefully gets fixed….

                    So reinstall, let it start rebooting and just walk away, for a good bit of time.

                    For your hardware I don't think it's an issue but make sure you have latest BIOS/UEFI/firmware installed.

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                      Runenaldo
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                      @pfBasic:

                      The "no suitable dump device found" error just means that you don't have swap, which is fine as long as that's the way you installed.

                      I did install without swap, so I can ignore that message in the future :)

                      @pfBasic:

                      I'd try it again and leave it for 20-30min.

                      There are a few issues with reboot floating around, and there's an issue where reboot can hang for ~20min because it can't install packages but it will eventually continue the boot and then you can get packages installed once boot is complete. The 20 minute hang issue hopefully gets fixed….

                      So reinstall, let it start rebooting and just walk away, for a good bit of time.

                      It just started its 20mins reboot countdown, so I'm crossing my fingers :)

                      @pfBasic:

                      For your hardware I don't think it's an issue but make sure you have latest BIOS/UEFI/firmware installed.

                      I am all ready, so shouldn't be a problem.

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                        Runenaldo
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                        I'm now on 120 mins, no sign of it wanting to reboot..

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                          Runenaldo
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                          So am I doing something wrong with the install?

                          Downloading the latest memstick image from here https://snapshots.pfsense.org/amd64/pfSense_master/installer/?C=M;O=D unpacking it, then using Win32DiskImager to make the bootable usb stick. Booting it up and following your guide https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?action=thankyoupostlist;topic=126597.0;msg=699155 and choosing 2 disk mirror.

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                            pfBasic Banned
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                            I don't think so, there have been multiple users reporting reboot issues. I've never encountered it though so I don't really know how to help except pointing you to these.

                            https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=128577.msg712180#msg712180

                            https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=126520.msg698661#msg698661

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                              Runenaldo
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                              @pfBasic:

                              I don't think so, there have been multiple users reporting reboot issues. I've never encountered it though so I don't really know how to help except pointing you to these.

                              https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=128577.msg712180#msg712180

                              https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=126520.msg698661#msg698661

                              Thanks, its good to know I'm not the only one.

                              Will try to install pfsense 2.4 to my SSD instead, hopefully it will work and then when a fix has been implemented I will go back to the sticks.

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                                pfBasic Banned
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                                Honestly if you have an SSD laying around you are better off using that.

                                In my ZFS Guide I do mention installs to USB sticks, but not because they are better. I mention it because it is a cost saving feature that might enable someone to afford it that otherwise couldn't. There are other reasons to install to USB, but generally speaking if you have an SSD definitely use the SSD.

                                USB drive installs need you to adjust things to make them last that you wouldn't ever have to worry about with an SSD.

                                The only advantage they have over SSDs is price, and how common they are (just about anyone can pull an SSD out of a drawer and install pfSense to their machine.

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                                  Runenaldo
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                                  @pfBasic:

                                  Honestly if you have an SSD laying around you are better off using that.

                                  In my ZFS Guide I do mention installs to USB sticks, but not because they are better. I mention it because it is a cost saving feature that might enable someone to afford it that otherwise couldn't. There are other reasons to install to USB, but generally speaking if you have an SSD definitely use the SSD.

                                  USB drive installs need you to adjust things to make them last that you wouldn't ever have to worry about with an SSD.

                                  The only advantage they have over SSDs is price, and how common they are (just about anyone can pull an SSD out of a drawer and install pfSense to their machine.

                                  Ja I totally understand, was just hoping to save the SSD for other projects. Its a bit overkill to have a 256gb disk in a router system IMO  ;D
                                  and as I said in my former post, I will properbly go back to the USB's if I hear news that the issue is fixed.

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                                    Runenaldo
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                                    Oh btw how would you configure the install with an SSD? how big of a swap size, if any?

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                                      pfBasic Banned
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                                      I don't think the boot issue is USB specific, others have reported the issue on SSD/HDD.

                                      Swap is normally double your RAM, I believe that's the default setting.

                                      Defaults will work great.

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                                        Runenaldo
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                                        @pfBasic:

                                        I don't think the boot issue is USB specific, others have reported the issue on SSD/HDD.

                                        Swap is normally double your RAM, I believe that's the default setting.

                                        Defaults will work great.

                                        hmm, for me the change to SSD worked, it rebooted straight away, with no issues.

                                        In that case, I will need to add some more swap.

                                        Will test VPN tommorrow.

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                                          Runenaldo
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                                          So got OpenVPN configured this morning and with the standard settings, its slow as usual 5/10-30mbit.

                                          With my added settings I'm hitting a max of 84mbps.

                                          I switched to pfsense monitor for reference as it seems Speedtest.net is all over the place..
                                          I tried to set it up as you described it in another thread. https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=128230.15

                                          @pfBasic:

                                          Then do your best to max out your bandwidth, Steam downloads usually have great bandwidth and they have free titles (DOTA 2 is pretty big and free so it will run for long enough to see it on RRDs).
                                          You have a pretty beefy connection so you might also stream a bunch of UHD youtube videos, I think you can search for even 5k and 8k content that will really suck down some bandwidth!

                                          Anyawys, after you max out the connection for 5-10 minutes,

                                          go to Status / Monitoring and set it up like so:

                                          System > Processor on one side
                                          Traffic > WAN on the other side
                                          1 Hour, 1 Minute, Line, On, Never
                                          De-select everything on the graph except:
                                          user util
                                          nice util
                                          system util
                                          interrupt
                                          inpass total
                                          outpass total

                                          Screenshot the graph and data summary with your mouse hovering over a point on the graph where your bandwidth is maxed out to display the stats you selected and post it up here.

                                          That will give no bullshit real world VPN throughput:CPU usage data (assuming you are piping all of your traffic out through a VPN client as you stated).

                                          I know that's all a very specific request, but it would be greatly appreciated!

                                          I'm thinking its pretty good, though it sucks I know it could be a bit better.
                                          Should I maybe give up and try running two OpenVPN clients? or is there still more I can tinker with?

                                          ![Steam 2nd install SSD VPN.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/Steam 2nd install SSD VPN.jpg)
                                          ![Steam 2nd install SSD VPN.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/Steam 2nd install SSD VPN.jpg_thumb)

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                                            pfBasic Banned
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                                            I don't know if I've asked this already but what NIC are you using?

                                            The CPU is obviously working just fine at ~17% for 86Mbps VPN throughout.

                                            With this being a clean install it should be maxing your connection.

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