Unable to traffic between LAN and OPT1

chengli · Aug 18, 2017, 2:37 PM

dear all, How can i traffic between LAN and OPT1. I tried static route and firewall rules but failed.

firewall rules i tried:
Interface: LAN
Source: LAN subnet
Destination: any

Interface: OPT1
Source: OPT1 subnet
Destination: any

Following is my interface details :
WAN - ip: 192.168.15.10
subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: 192.168.15.1 (set as default gateway)

LAN - ip:192.168.1.10
subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway:empty

OPT1- ip:10.0.0.10
subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway:empty

Any ideas? Thanks

johnpoz · Aug 18, 2017, 2:46 PM

All that is needed is creation of your firewall rules.. There is no need for creating of any routes. Pfsense is directly attached to the networks via its interfaces so it knows how to get there.

How do you have devices connected to these different networks? Are you using a smart switch? 2 different dumb switches - device directly connected to the interface? Can the device on opt1 get ip via dhcp, can it ping the opt1 ip 10.0.0.10 ?

Quite often common issues users run into with this is they forget the devices firewall. Windows out of the box for example would block access from anything not on its local network. So while you ping from lan to opt1 network the devices on opt1 would not answer.

Other common problem is creating rules pointing to a specific gateway.. Such a rule would not allow access to the other local network because traffic would be forced out the gateway. If you want to send traffic out a specific gateway via say a vpn connection or something you would need to put a rule above that rule that allows access to the other network without setting a gateway on the rule so that pfsense can use its own internal routing to know where to send the traffic.

chengli · Aug 18, 2017, 3:07 PM

thanks for your fast respond.

Devices like following: i tried to use OPT PC to ping lan printer but failed. LAN PC can ping LAN printer
OPT1 PC(10.0.0.2/24) –--> PFSENSE --> unmanage switch---> LAN printer(192.168.1.190/24 ) <----> LAN PC(192.168.1.20).

for OPT1 : pc can get ip from dhcp and ping 10.0.0.10.

Besides that, i had set the Interface: LAN
Source: LAN subnet
Destination: any

Interface: OPT1
Source: OPT1 subnet
Destination: any

am i missing something else?

johnpoz · Aug 18, 2017, 3:09 PM

"LAN printer"

Ah – does the printer have a gateway set to pfsense lan IP? I have seen many a printer that don't have or some that don't even allow for a gateway. So the only way to talk to them is being on the same network as them.

chengli · Aug 18, 2017, 3:32 PM

OK .. we don't mention about the LAN printer.

I cant ping the LAN PC (192.168.1.20) from OPT PC(10.0.0.2) as well and even the IP of LAN interface 192.168.1.10.

Thanks for your patient and my stupid.

johnpoz · Aug 18, 2017, 4:00 PM

please post up picture of your opt1 rules.

And you say you can ping the opt pfsense IP.. But not the lan IP of pfsense from this opt pc.. You sure you have the gateway and mask setup correctly on the opt pc? It got this via dhcp from pfsense?

chengli · Aug 19, 2017, 1:15 AM

yes .. for the opt PC's ip is via dhcp from pfsense. Only the LAN PC is configure as static IP. I'M sure the all the pc's ip configure is correct because i could use LAN PC / OPT1 PC to access internet via pfsense. Just unable to ping each other network.

From OPT PC, i can access the web configuration of pfsense as well.

i slightly change the the ip of pfsense as below:

WAN - ip: 192.168.0.102
subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: ip: 192.168.0.12 (set as default gateway)

LAN - ip:10.0.0.11
subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway:empty

OPT1- ip:192.168.1.12
subnet: 255.255.255.0
Gateway:empty

Please let me know if you need more info… i try to provide. thanks

johnpoz · Aug 19, 2017, 2:23 AM

"Just unable to ping each other network."

The pfsense interface of the other network or the other pc??

Do you have any rules in floating?

chengli · Aug 19, 2017, 3:55 AM

"Just unable to ping each other network."

sorry .. i mean LAN and OPT1 cant traffic.

No rules in floating.

FROM the LAN side everything is ok:
-I can ping the pfsense LAN interface address
-I CAN NOT ping the pfsense OPT interface address
-I CAN NOT ping a host on the OPT subnet

FROM the OPT side:
-I can ping the pfsense LAN interface address
-I can ping the pfsense OPT interface address
-I CAN NOT ping a host on the LAN subnet.

johnpoz · Aug 19, 2017, 9:34 AM

FROM the LAN side everything is ok:
-I can ping the pfsense LAN interface address
-I CAN NOT ping the pfsense OPT interface address
-I CAN NOT ping a host on the OPT subnet

How is that ok??

You should be able to ping the opt interface address and hosts on opt subnet

Your lan side host - does it have the correct mask? That would explain it..

chengli · Aug 21, 2017, 12:42 AM

My god, thanks johnpo.

Finally pfsense can working by adding the gateway on the pfsense LAN interface. As the following attachment.

currently,
-I can ping the pfsense LAN interface address.
-I can ping the pfsense OPT interface address.
-I can ping a host on the OPT subnet.
-I CAN NOT PING GOOGLE.

I always thought pfsense LAN/ OPT1 interface SHOULD NOT put any IP in " IPv4 Upstream gateway" but it indeed work. BUT I CAN NOT PING GOOGLE RIGHT NOW. :-X

May i know, what situation we should not put the IP in IPv4 Upstream gateway?

ptt · Aug 21, 2017, 12:47 AM

You don't set a GW for a LAN type interface

https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Connectivity_Troubleshooting#LAN_Interface

chengli · Aug 21, 2017, 1:42 AM

Once i set back the pfsense LAN INTERFACE TO EMPTY.

FROM the LAN side:
-I can ping the pfsense LAN interface address.
-I CAN ping the pfsense OPT interface address.
-I CAN NOT ping a host on the OPT subnet.
-I can ping GOOGLE.

Actually what i missed ?? my god…

LAN PC IP : 10.0.0.10
subnet mask : 255.255.255.0
gateway : 10.0.0.11

OPT PC IP : 192.168.1.3
subnet mask : 255.255.255.0
gateway : 192.168.1.12

chengli · Aug 21, 2017, 2:23 AM

I think i found the solution already .. by using NAT.

-I can ping the pfsense LAN interface address.
-I can ping the pfsense OPT interface address.
-I can ping a host on the OPT subnet.
-I can ping GOOGLE.

Thanks for people who suggest me solution.

Gertjan · Aug 21, 2017, 1:10 PM

Natting between LAN's ? :o
@chengli:

LAN PC IP : 10.0.0.10
subnet mask : 255.255.255.0
gateway : 10.0.0.11

What ? A Gateway ?
In the "Static IPv4 Configuration" section you saw this :

If this interface is an Internet connection, select an existing Gateway from the list or add a new one using the "Add" button.
On local area network interfaces the upstream gateway should be "none".

@chengli:

OPT PC IP : 192.168.1.3
subnet mask : 255.255.255.0
gateway : 192.168.1.12

Please read -> https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=135388.msg741800#msg741800