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    ROKU Issues with pfBlockerNG (CBS All Access, PBS, CNET) not working

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    • XentrkX
      Xentrk
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      @reisender:

      @BBcan177:

      @reisender:

      In my case I had to whitelist pubads.g.doubleclick.net.

      That domain also has a CNAME, so you might have to whitelist both of them…

      BBcan177, you are correct.  I also have the CNAME you provided whitelisted since I used the "+" icon to add it to the whitelist.  My whitelist does not have a "period" in front of pubads.

      Do you have any idea why the Roku channels work normally when I block pubads.g.doubleclick.net when using piHole for DNS, but fail when blocking this domain using pfBlockerNG?  It makes me think the channel doesn't depend on doubleclick.net since it works while blocked with piHole.  Something is different with the way DNSBL is handling it.  It isn't the end of the world to keep doubleclick whitelisted, but I prefer to block it if possible.

      Thanks for the feedback. I made two changes today from my updates last night: 1 - removing the AS number entry 2 - adding periods to the whitelist entries.  I then got it to work. So I assumed it was the periods in front that did the trick.  I removed the period and saved. But I can't update DNSBL right now as an active cron job is running. I will report back and update with the results. You are right. The period should not be required.

      EDIT: I can confirm the leading dot is not required in front of the domain name.

      I should also report that I have two other routers running ASUS Merlin 380.66_2. On these routers I use an ad blocking solution https://www.ab-solution.info/ which also blacklists pubads.g.doubleclick.net.  But CBS, PBS and CNET work fine on those routers with the Roku 4 and I don't have to whitelist the pubads.g.doubleclick.net site on that ad blocking solution.

      pfSense 2.4.4_2 | Intel i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz  | AES-NI enabled |  pfBlockerNG | Snort
      Blog Site: https://x3mtek.com || GitHub: https://github.com/Xentrk

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      • BBcan177B
        BBcan177 Moderator
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        I can only assume that the Roku devices are attempting to connect to this domain via HTTPS, and are not timing out as expected…  DNSBL uses port forwards to redirect the DNS blocked request to the lighttod webserver. So for HTTPS blocked domains, the browser or app will see that the Certificate of the DNSBL Webserver doesn't match the requested domain and it should immediately timeout and close the connection....

        The next version of the package will have an option to utilize "0.0.0.0" instead of the DNSBL VIP... So that might address this issue for these particular situations. You could temporarily whitelist this domain in DNSBL and add a host override in Unbound for this domain and point it to "0.0.0.0"...

        "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

        Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
        Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
        Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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        • BBcan177B
          BBcan177 Moderator
          last edited by

          @Xentrk:

          I should also report that I have two other routers running ASUS Merlin 380.66_2. On these routers I use an ad blocking solution https://www.ab-solution.info/ which also blacklists pubads.g.doubleclick.net.  But CBS, PBS and CNET work fine on those routers with the Roku 4 and I don't have to whitelist the pubads.g.doubleclick.net site on that ad blocking solution.

          You can see from the website link that you provided above, that pixelserv is MITM'ing the domains by creating false certificates… obviously something that I want to avoid:

          pixelserv-tls.add: Added option to purge auto-generated pixelserv-tls certificates.

          "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

          Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
          Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
          Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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            reisender
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            Thanks for the explanation BBcan117.  Your contribution to the pfSense community is huge!  I look forward to the next version.

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            • R
              reisender
              last edited by

              A quick follow-up.  I followed BBCan117's suggestion to use a host override for pubads.g.doubleclick.net and the CNAME partnerads.l.doubleclick.net.

              The Roku channels still work, and the ads are not appearing.  Problem solved.

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              • XentrkX
                Xentrk
                last edited by

                @reisender:

                A quick follow-up.  I followed BBCan117's suggestion to use a host override for pubads.g.doubleclick.net and the CNAME partnerads.l.doubleclick.net.

                The Roku channels still work, and the ads are not appearing.  Problem solved.

                Does my host overrides look correct (see attachment)?  This is a new one for me on pfSense.

                Also, did you keep the Custom Domain Whitelist entry for pubads.g.doubleclick.net in the DNSBL Configuration screen?

                Regards, Xentrk

                host_overrides.PNG
                host_overrides.PNG_thumb

                pfSense 2.4.4_2 | Intel i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz  | AES-NI enabled |  pfBlockerNG | Snort
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                  reisender
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                  Your host override isn't quite right.  Make it look like the attached image.  Keep the domains in your whitelist.  I kept the whitelist for both domains.  I'm not sure if DNSBL or the host override is processed first, but it seems to work this way.

                  hostoverride.jpg_thumb
                  hostoverride.jpg

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                  • XentrkX
                    Xentrk
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                    @reisender:

                    Your host override isn't quite right.  Make it look like the attached image.  Keep the domains in your whitelist.  I kept the whitelist for both domains.  I'm not sure if DNSBL or the host override is processed first, but it seems to work this way.

                    Thanks you reisender and BBCan177 for the help.  With the DNS Resolver change, I no longer see ads on those channels. I will need to watch more to make sure. A nice benefit for sure.  I'm happy to get those channels working again though. I never thought it was my firewall blocking them for two months as they worked okay before the last part of April. I then saw on the Roku forums that others were having an issue as well. I posted the fix on the Roku forum site.  Having access to TV in USA enhances my expat life here in the land of smiles.

                    Because of this issue, I learned features of pfBlockerNG and DNS Resolver that I was not aware of.  I appreciate your help and educating me along the way!  I am very grateful for the help you all provided.

                    Regards, Xen

                    pfSense 2.4.4_2 | Intel i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz  | AES-NI enabled |  pfBlockerNG | Snort
                    Blog Site: https://x3mtek.com || GitHub: https://github.com/Xentrk

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                    • BBcan177B
                      BBcan177 Moderator
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                      @Xentrk:

                      Thanks you reisender and BBCan177 for the help.  With the DNS Resolver change, I no longer see ads on those channels. I will need to watch more to make sure. A nice benefit for sure.  I'm happy to get those channels working again though. I never thought it was my firewall blocking them for two months as they worked okay before the last part of April. I then saw on the Roku forums that others were having an issue as well. I posted the fix on the Roku forum site.  Having access to TV in USA enhances my expat life here in the land of smiles.

                      Because of this issue, I learned features of pfBlockerNG and DNS Resolver that I was not aware of.  I appreciate your help and educating me along the way!  I am very grateful for the help you all provided.

                      Regards, Xen

                      NP your welcome…  ;)

                      "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                      Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                      Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                      Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                      • XentrkX
                        Xentrk
                        last edited by

                        @reisender:

                        Your host override isn't quite right.  Make it look like the attached image.  Keep the domains in your whitelist.  I kept the whitelist for both domains.  I'm not sure if DNSBL or the host override is processed first, but it seems to work this way.

                        reisender,

                        Is CBS all access still working for you?  It stopped working for me last night.  When I select a video to watch, I get a little spinning symbol for a few seconds followed by a black screen.  I can watch live TV okay.  It is just the on demand videos that are the issue.  It works okay on my ASUS router using AB-Solution.info ad blocker. But I do see ads. Maybe it is time to pay the extra $$ for the ad free version.

                        pfSense 2.4.4_2 | Intel i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz  | AES-NI enabled |  pfBlockerNG | Snort
                        Blog Site: https://x3mtek.com || GitHub: https://github.com/Xentrk

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                        • XentrkX
                          Xentrk
                          last edited by

                          @Xentrk:

                          @reisender:

                          Your host override isn't quite right.  Make it look like the attached image.  Keep the domains in your whitelist.  I kept the whitelist for both domains.  I'm not sure if DNSBL or the host override is processed first, but it seems to work this way.

                          reisender,

                          Is CBS all access still working for you?  It stopped working for me last night.  When I select a video to watch, I get a little spinning symbol for a few seconds followed by a black screen.  I can watch live TV okay.  It is just the on demand videos that are the issue.  It works okay on my ASUS router using AB-Solution.info ad blocker. But I do see ads. Maybe it is time to pay the extra $$ for the ad free version.

                          I have it working again. I was unable to determine the domain or host file causing the issues. I did some testing with hosts file on my ASUS router using AB-Solution. I had issues when I went to higher levels of hosts files. I found the right combination that made it work on the ASUS. I replicated that on the pfSense. I started with this list:

                          http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/hosts
                          http://sysctl.org/cameleon/hosts
                          http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
                          http://www.malekal.com/HOSTS_filtre/HOSTS.txt
                          http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/hosts.txt
                          https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=hostfile
                          http://www.hostsfile.org/Downloads/hosts.txt
                          http://www.securemecca.com/Downloads/hosts.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/exp.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/ad_servers.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/emd.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/hjk.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/fsa.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/grm.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/psh.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/mmt.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/hfs.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/pha.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/wrz.txt
                          http://raw.githubusercontent.com/michaeltrimm/hosts-blocking/master/_hosts.txt
                          

                          And narrowed it down to this list

                          https://adaway.org/hosts.txt
                          http://pgl.yoyo.org/adservers/serverlist.php?hostformat=hosts&showintro=0&mimetype=plaintext&useip=0.0.0.0
                          http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/zero/hosts
                          http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.txt
                          http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/hostslist/hosts.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/ad_servers.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/emd.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/grm.txt
                          http://hosts-file.net/mmt.txt
                          
                          

                          Perhaps one of these days, I will take some the hosts files back in one by one until I determine which one caused me the grief.

                          pfSense 2.4.4_2 | Intel i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz  | AES-NI enabled |  pfBlockerNG | Snort
                          Blog Site: https://x3mtek.com || GitHub: https://github.com/Xentrk

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                          • XentrkX
                            Xentrk
                            last edited by

                            The above solution was a false positive. It did not work.  I ended up removing the Host Overrides in DNS Resolver to get it working. However, ads are now appearing.  We'll, I am paying for the lower tier with ads. So I can live with it. Enjoying it ad free was nice while it lasted though.

                            pfSense 2.4.4_2 | Intel i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz  | AES-NI enabled |  pfBlockerNG | Snort
                            Blog Site: https://x3mtek.com || GitHub: https://github.com/Xentrk

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