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    • K Offline
      kejianshi
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      Thw wan IP starts with 192.168?

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        The 1 thing off the top of my head that would explain why it works with proxy is that you turned nat off on pfsense..

        So now your traffic it looks like its coming from pfsense 192.168 wan IP vs some other 192.168.x.x network behind pfsense.  That wouldn't explain the ping working though… What IP address is on pfsense wan 192.168.?  And what is on the lan 192.168.?

        If they are the same, the networks overlap then no its not going to work..  Proxy might work though..

        If your saying you have rfc1918 on your pfsense when then you don't have a "modem" in front.. You have a gateway, ie modem/router combo doing NAT.. And yes if you have the same network on both sides of pfsense its going to be borked!  Or your isp is doing carrier grade nat?

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          abrougui
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          The wan is connected with the modem with ip 192.168.100.2 and the lan have the adress 192.168.101.1

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            kejianshi
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            quick fix to get things working (proabably)

            Change LAN IP (and DHCP) to 192.168.183.1 with a /24

            Make sure wan interface has block private unchecked.  (save and apply all changes)

            After that, take some time to unjack your setup.  Its going to take some reading.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              "192.168.100.2"

              That is normally what you get when modem does not have a uplink… Many cable modems when they have no uplink to the isp will hand out private IP address. in the 192.168.100 range..

              Its possible you turned on pfsense before your modem had sync to isp?  I would suggest you reboot your modem... When it has sync and showing it online via its lights.  Then connect pfsense to it... It should then get a public IP.. From your isp.. That is if actually a modem - or gateway in bridge mode.  What is the make and model of this isp device pfsense wan is plugged into.

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                abrougui
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                johnpoz, i have tried that but it dodnt work.
                kejianshi, same think, the problèm hear, why i can ping in any web link

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  Then call you ISP… you getting a 192.168.100.2 is not going to work on a cable modem.. You should have a public IP from your ISP..

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                    abrougui
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                    i have another connection from a rooter. the public private adress is 192.168.1.1.
                    now i have changed my WAN to be conected with my rooter with the public adress 192.168.1.196 and my lan with 192.168.183.1. but i have the same problem. i can ping but i cant navigate

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      Are you saying that devices connect to this router 192.168.1.1 work?

                      When you say you can ping… Are you pinging by name and resolving this to an IP?

                      ping www.google.com

                      Pinging www.google.com [[b]172.217.4.228] with 32 bytes of data:
                      Reply from 172.217.4.228: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=51
                      Reply from 172.217.4.228: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=51

                      What are the rules you have on your lan of pfsense?  Its still the default any any rule?  You have nothing in floating?  Your outbound nat is automatic.  Your not running proxy??  Your browser is not trying to use a proxy you can not get to?

                      Do a simple traceroute..

                      From windows machine it would be

                      tracert -d www.google.com

                      Tracing route to www.google.com [172.217.4.228]
                      over a maximum of 30 hops:

                      1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.9.253
                        2    9 ms    9 ms    8 ms  50.4.132.1
                        3    11 ms    11 ms    8 ms  76.73.171.73
                        4    10 ms    9 ms    10 ms  76.73.164.121

                      leave out the -d if you want name resolution.. Can slow it up..

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                        kejianshi
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                        I'm waiting for him to plug a computer or laptop directly into that modem before I worry this any longer.

                        Need to confirm the modem is even working before messing around with pfsense anymore.

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          ^ agreed… 192.168.100 does not scream Im on the internet.

                          Putting another router in front of it so pfsense now gets that natted IP on its wan doesn't help anything.. Especially when not stating that something else directly connected to this router works..

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                            kejianshi
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                            Yeah - The more I look at what johnpoz said earlier the more I'm think we are beating on pfsense and the modem isn't even passing an IP like it should.

                            Easy to check by plugging directly into the modem.  (Might have to deal with the ISP about the MAC changes though).

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                              abrougui
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                              yes i can ping to google.com

                              C:\Users\resa>ping www.google.com

                              Envoi d’une requête 'ping' sur www.google.com [216.58.205.164] avec 32 octets de données :
                              Réponse de 216.58.205.164 : octets=32 temps=49 ms TTL=53
                              Réponse de 216.58.205.164 : octets=32 temps=48 ms TTL=53
                              Réponse de 216.58.205.164 : octets=32 temps=49 ms TTL=53
                              Réponse de 216.58.205.164 : octets=32 temps=48 ms TTL=53

                              Statistiques Ping pour 216.58.205.164:
                                  Paquets : envoyés = 4, reçus = 4, perdus = 0 (perte 0%),

                              C:\Users\resa>tracert -d www.google.com

                              Détermination de l’itinéraire vers www.google.com [216.58.205.164]
                              avec un maximum de 30 sauts :

                              1    2 ms    1 ms    1 ms  192.168.183.1
                                2    2 ms    2 ms    2 ms  192.168.1.1
                                3    4 ms    4 ms    4 ms  10.223.255.249
                                4    6 ms    3 ms    3 ms  10.201.32.102
                                5    *        *        *    Délai d’attente de la demande dépassé.
                                6    *        *        *    Délai d’attente de la demande dépassé.
                                7    50 ms    50 ms    50 ms  192.168.165.74
                                8    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  37.49.236.2
                                9    55 ms    49 ms    51 ms  108.170.244.240
                              10    49 ms    49 ms    50 ms  72.14.238.63
                              11    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  216.239.35.208
                              12    49 ms    49 ms    49 ms  216.239.47.112
                              13    *        *        *    Délai d’attente de la demande dépassé.
                              14    52 ms    49 ms    50 ms  216.239.42.23
                              15    48 ms    49 ms    49 ms  216.58.205.164

                              Itinéraire déterminé.

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                                abrougui
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                                i think that do some rules in the NAT?

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                                  abrougui
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                                  so any solution?

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    how is it your 8 hops into your trace before you hit public IP space?  And not seeing that 192.168.100 anywhere in that unless its hop 5 or 6?

                                    Are you clients pointing to a proxy, what are your firewall rules?  Are you trying point traffic down a vpn?

                                    Do tcptraceroute - how far does http/https traffic get with say destination of google?

                                    traceroute to www.google.com (172.217.0.4), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
                                    1  192.168.9.253  0.388 ms  0.443 ms  0.560 ms
                                    2  50.4.132.1  11.206 ms  11.211 ms  18.032 ms
                                    3  76.73.171.73  22.360 ms  22.487 ms  23.364 ms
                                    4  76.73.164.121  18.929 ms  19.992 ms  19.996 ms
                                    5  76.73.164.109  19.782 ms  19.916 ms  19.757 ms
                                    6  76.73.164.105  19.855 ms  20.525 ms  19.436 ms
                                    7  76.73.164.65  20.069 ms  13.502 ms  14.110 ms
                                    8  76.73.191.224  14.320 ms  19.632 ms  18.099 ms
                                    9  76.73.191.226  16.836 ms 75.76.35.8  18.047 ms  18.075 ms
                                    10  72.14.211.145  16.717 ms  18.107 ms  18.099 ms
                                    11  108.170.243.193  17.205 ms *  15.873 ms
                                    12  216.239.42.35  16.081 ms  14.040 ms 216.239.42.33  13.946 ms
                                    13  172.217.0.4 <syn,ack>  17.232 ms  15.859 ms  21.930 ms</syn,ack>

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