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      frankvh
      last edited by

      This is interesting because I recently had the same experience. I lost access to my LAN because I'd used the level 1 list. I switched to Firehol level 3 but it's a shorter list.

      As a "lazy man's" alternative, am I safe if I use the Firehol level 1 list, but also enable "supression" in the pfBlockNG general tab?

      Thanks.

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        charvey
        last edited by

        I had similar issues with firehol lvl 1, but with broadcast packets.

        See https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=138877.0

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          frankvh
          last edited by

          I ended up taking BBcan's advice (good advice it always is) and simply put the lists that comprise firehol1 into pfblocker (minus the bogons list of course).

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          • BBcan177B
            BBcan177 Moderator
            last edited by

            @frankvh:

            I ended up taking BBcan's advice (good advice it always is) and simply put the lists that comprise firehol1 into pfblocker (minus the bogons list of course).

            Using the Lvl 1 Feed is going to cause grief… Just don't do it  ;) ;)

            "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

            Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
            Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
            Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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              iorx
              last edited by

              The level1 list looks like this, excluding the bogons.
              (I really hope that I understood the firehol list content correctly. If that is the case, now someone else don't have to recreate this wheel again.)

              Here goes:

              http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt
              http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/edrop.txt
              http://feeds.dshield.org/block.txt
              https://feodotracker.abuse.ch/blocklist/?download=ipblocklist
              https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/sslipblacklist.csv
              https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=badips
              http://osint.bambenekconsulting.com/feeds/c2-ipmasterlist.txt
              
              
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              • BBcan177B
                BBcan177 Moderator
                last edited by

                Try to use HTTPS for all sites that support it…

                "Experience is something you don't get until just after you need it."

                Website: http://pfBlockerNG.com
                Twitter: @BBcan177  #pfBlockerNG
                Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/pfBlockerNG/new/

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                  adoucette
                  last edited by

                  @iorx:

                  The level1 list looks like this, excluding the bogons.
                  (I really hope that I understood the firehol list content correctly. If that is the case, now someone else don't have to recreate this wheel again.)

                  Here goes:

                  http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt
                  http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/edrop.txt
                  http://feeds.dshield.org/block.txt
                  https://feodotracker.abuse.ch/blocklist/?download=ipblocklist
                  https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/sslipblacklist.csv
                  https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=badips
                  http://osint.bambenekconsulting.com/feeds/c2-ipmasterlist.txt
                  
                  

                  iorx, thank you for compiling and posting that.
                  Is the above list sufficient for the residential user? Or are there additional sources I should add?

                  On the other hand, given the great work BBcan has done with the "suppression" option etc, is it safe to just use the firehol level 1 list just in case the sources it pulls from change over time?

                  (just one small piece of 1) protecting the kids online and 2) protecting our networked computers from what the kids may inadvertently do online!)

                  Thank you all.
                  BBCan – donation coming your way.

                  Ari

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                    seanr22a
                    last edited by

                    This is the IP lists I’m using. I started with a few and over time added more and more lists I’ve found. I use a script that download all lists with wget, unpack those that need and put all of them in one file. The resulting file is filtered leaving only ip addresses and checked and cleaned for duplicates and sorted. Finally, the file is cleaned from RFC 1918 and RFC 4193 addresses and some common important ip addresses such as 8.8.8.8  8.8.4.4 and so on. The finished file is put on a small internal webserver. Pfblocker get the file from there. I do the same with DNSBL lists, I can post all DNSBL lists I have if someone is interested. The ones here is only IP lists.
                    I put the resulting IP list and DNSBL list on an external webserver as well currently updated once a week. You have them here: http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/MyBlocklist.txt and http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/mydnsblfeed.txt  The DNSBL file is big so it can take a while to download.

                    https://gist.githubusercontent.com/BBcan177/d7105c242f17f4498f81/raw/90eb2ac8bdc01af3008d728b7c0f10dc7b2506b4/MS-3
                    https://gist.githubusercontent.com/BBcan177/bf29d47ea04391cb3eb0/raw/b344ebc9475acdea1fae38a12c4ea9332838a184/MS-1
                    https://rules.emergingthreats.net/fwrules/emerging-Block-IPs.txt
                    https://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt
                    https://pfblockerlists.smallbusinesstech.net/hackerlist.txt
                    https://ransomwaretracker.abuse.ch/downloads/RW_IPBL.txt
                    https://rules.emergingthreats.net/blockrules/compromised-ips.txt
                    http://www.abuseat.org/iotcc.txt
                    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/master/firehol_level1.netset
                    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/master/firehol_level2.netset
                    http://cinsscore.com/list/ci-badguys.txt
                    https://ransomwaretracker.abuse.ch/downloads/LY_PS_IPBL.txt
                    https://ransomwaretracker.abuse.ch/downloads/TL_C2_IPBL.txt
                    https://zeustracker.abuse.ch/blocklist.php?download=badips
                    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/master/firehol_level3.netset
                    http://danger.rulez.sk/projects/bruteforceblocker/blist.php
                    https://lists.blocklist.de/lists/all.txt
                    http://malc0de.com/bl/IP_Blacklist.txt
                    https://feodotracker.abuse.ch/blocklist/?download=ipblocklist
                    https://raw.githubusercontent.com/firehol/blocklist-ipsets/master/firehol_level4.netset
                    http://feeds.dshield.org/top10-2.txt
                    https://feeds.dshield.org/block.txt
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=dgxtneitpuvgqqcpfulq&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=dgxtneitpuvgqqcpfulq&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=dgxtneitpuvgqqcpfulq&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=llvtlsjyoyiczbkjsxpf&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=llvtlsjyoyiczbkjsxpf&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=llvtlsjyoyiczbkjsxpf&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=usrcshglbiilevmyfhse&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=usrcshglbiilevmyfhse&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=usrcshglbiilevmyfhse&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=xpbqleszmajjesnzddhv&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=xpbqleszmajjesnzddhv&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://list.iblocklist.com/?list=xpbqleszmajjesnzddhv&fileformat=p2p&archiveformat=gz
                    http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/edrop.txt
                    https://sslbl.abuse.ch/blacklist/sslipblacklist.csv
                    http://osint.bambenekconsulting.com/feeds/c2-ipmasterlist.txt

                    If you want to use the Firehol level 1 only you could use the same approach with a script to filter out those addresses you don't want.

                    [EDIT]
                    added three more lists to my script from this thread
                    Forgot that the webserver is on port 9080 Fixed now

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                      Biscuitsntea
                      last edited by

                      @seanr22a:

                      I put the resulting IP list and DNSBL list on an external webserver as well currently updated once a week. You have them here: https://dnsbl.dyndns.org/modules/mymod/MyBlocklist.txt and https://dnsbl.dyndns.org/modules/mymod/mydnsblfeed.txt  The DNSBL file is big so it can take a while to download.

                      The links are not working.

                      
                      Connection timed out after 15039 milliseconds Retry in 5 seconds...
                      . cURL Error: 28
                      Connection timed out after 15015 milliseconds Retry in 5 seconds...
                      . cURL Error: 28
                      Connection timed out after 15021 milliseconds Retry in 5 seconds...
                      .. unknown http status code
                      Download FAIL [ 11/20/17 08:12:54 ]
                        Firewall and/or IDS are not blocking download.
                      
                      The Following list has been REMOVED 
                      
                      

                      Thanks for sharing. Let us know when the webserver is working again.

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                        seanr22a
                        last edited by

                        @Presbuteros:

                        The links are not working.

                        Sorry, forgot that the server is on port 9080. Changed in the original post.

                        [edit]
                        Changed to http port 9080

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                          Biscuitsntea
                          last edited by

                          Tried again with updated URL

                          https://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9443/modules/mymod/MyBlocklist.txt

                          [ Comp ]		 Downloading update .
                          **Saving configuration [ 11/20/17 09:21:40 ] ...
                           cURL Error: 51
                          SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'dnsbl.dyndns.org' Retry in 5 seconds...
                          . cURL Error: 51
                          SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'dnsbl.dyndns.org' Retry in 5 seconds...
                          . cURL Error: 51
                          SSL: no alternative certificate subject name matches target host name 'dnsbl.dyndns.org' Retry in 5 seconds...
                          .. unknown http status code 
                          
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                            seanr22a
                            last edited by

                            This got far more complicated than I thought ….. Now I've put up a new small webserver for external access so I don't have to mess around with our production systems for this.

                            http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/MyBlocklist.txt
                            http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/mydnsblfeed.txt

                            I hope everything ok now. I modified my previous posts  :P

                            Info about all the public available IP and DNSBL lists I'm using
                            http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/info.txt

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                              adoucette
                              last edited by

                              Thank you seanr22a – that's very generous of you to compile, filter, host and post. Very generous of iorx as well, above.

                              I put together a comparison in Excel of the three lists (FireHol lvl 1, iorx's compilation above, and seanr22a's compilation above) and the initial conclusions I draw are:
                              37% of FireHol Lvl 1's IPs are in iorx's list and 100% are in seanr22a's list
                              99% of iorx's values are reflected in FireHol's and 65% of the ips are reflected in seanr22a's.
                              Seanr22a's list may be more comprehensive. It is a 3MB download and has almost 200,000 IPs (the dbsbl list is a 45MB download  :o - may reflect lots of effort on his part).

                              Excel file attached.

                              My questions, as a layman, would be:
                              With the larger list, is there a substantially increased potential for false-positives?
                              Will this larger list slow down the pfSense box?

                              Ari

                              pfb-list-compare.zip

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                                Biscuitsntea
                                last edited by

                                Yes, thanks to all who are contributing here.

                                @adoucette:

                                With the larger list, is there a substantially increased potential for false-positives?
                                Will this larger list slow down the pfSense box?
                                Ari

                                I loaded the list from seanr22a. I took a while to download and compile. It did not "appear" to slow down the pfSense box. My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-J1900N-D3V so a Celeron quad-core 2Ghz and 8 GB of RAM. What I did notice was a lot of issues loading news sites like cnn, foznews, drudgereport, etc. Videos were stalling out and certain essential elements of the page would not load. However, I would like to hear from others on their use of the list and if they had any obvious issues. I simply disabled the list until I have more time to test later.

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                                  seanr22a
                                  last edited by

                                  @Presbuteros:

                                  Yes, thanks to all who are contributing here.

                                  I loaded the list from seanr22a. I took a while to download and compile. It did not "appear" to slow down the pfSense box. My mobo is a Gigabyte GA-J1900N-D3V so a Celeron quad-core 2Ghz and 8 GB of RAM. What I did notice was a lot of issues loading news sites like cnn, foznews, drudgereport, etc. Videos were stalling out and certain essential elements of the page would not load. However, I would like to hear from others on their use of the list and if they had any obvious issues. I simply disabled the list until I have more time to test later.

                                  Check the Pfblocker logs for what is blocked related to the sites you visit. You have logs for both DNSBL and IP lists.
                                  As you can see in the info.txt file the lists are made from public available lists maintained by many different people and organizations. Unfortunately there is no list that fits everyone. Simply whitelist those sites that causes you problem, I've done that for many ip's and domains to make it work for me so start dig in to the logs :)

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                                    iorx
                                    last edited by

                                    @BBcan177:

                                    @frankvh:

                                    I ended up taking BBcan's advice (good advice it always is) and simply put the lists that comprise firehol1 into pfblocker (minus the bogons list of course).

                                    Using the Lvl 1 Feed is going to cause grief… Just don't do it  ;) ;)

                                    Even with Suppression enabled?

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                                      ui5-5e
                                      last edited by

                                      @seanr22a:

                                      http://dnsbl.dyndns.org

                                      @seanr22a: i give a "thank you"
                                      and by the way: before importing your banlist, I checked the IP provenience behind your dyndns address (sorry for that).
                                      Interstingly I did note a Spamhaus ZEN blocklist entry for that IP  ;) (just for the record: I imported and I will thankfully update your list weekly).

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                                        st4t1c
                                        last edited by

                                        @iorx:

                                        @BBcan177:

                                        @frankvh:

                                        I ended up taking BBcan's advice (good advice it always is) and simply put the lists that comprise firehol1 into pfblocker (minus the bogons list of course).

                                        Using the Lvl 1 Feed is going to cause grief… Just don't do it  ;) ;)

                                        Even with Suppression enabled?

                                        I'm interested to know as well.

                                        Also, when someone refers to whitelist the LAN_NET (and other vlans I guess) where does one actually whitelist those?

                                        • In Firewall > Aliases > IP > pfBlockerNGSuppress ?

                                        • In Firewall > pfBlockerNG > IPv4 > Create a new "Permit Outbound" list and add them there? Ensuring that this new list is on top of every other list (similarly to the firewall rules) as to ensure that it is applied before any "Deny" lists?"

                                        Thanks a lot!

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                                          seanr22a
                                          last edited by

                                          @seanr22a:

                                          This got far more complicated than I thought ….. Now I've put up a new small webserver for external access so I don't have to mess around with our production systems for this.

                                          http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/MyBlocklist.txt
                                          http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/mydnsblfeed.txt

                                          I hope everything ok now. I modified my previous posts  :P

                                          Info about all the public available IP and DNSBL lists I'm using
                                          http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/info.txt

                                          For all of you using this please see the updated info.txt file. There is a few new ipblock lists added and a few dnsbl lists. There is more than 200 downloads every day so apperently it's not only me finding them useful :)

                                          Info about all the public available IP and DNSBL lists I'm using:
                                          http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/info.txt

                                          The resulting lists:
                                          http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/MyBlocklist.txt
                                          http://dnsbl.dyndns.org:9080/mydnsblfeed.txt

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                                            darkangelus
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                                            Hi seanr22a, I've been using your lists for a bit now and they have been just what i've been after.. however, I wonder if you could help with a little issue which is causing poor connectivity, it seems one (or more) of the lists you use are blocking certain ranges within the cdn's of Cloudflare, CloudFront and aws. they seem to vary daily as the lists are updated.. Possibly for good reason, however, given that the ranges are generally from anywhere in the entire world assigned randomly to a site, the blocking is causing connectivity issues to certain websites, which dnbl whitelisting is having no effect on, as the IP's change all the time.

                                            I wondered if you could process out the ranges? at the moment i'm having to go through the alerts after an update to see if there are any blocked ranges attempting to connect to/from a server or client. Having the ranges in pf suppression doesn't always seem to work for some reason.

                                            ranges are:

                                            http://d7uri8nf7uskq.cloudfront.net/tools/list-cloudfront-ips
                                            https://www.cloudflare.com/ips-v4
                                            https://ip-ranges.amazonaws.com/ip-ranges.json

                                            Also, (you or a mod) perhaps make a separate thread for your list to save hijacking this one further? :)

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