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    • Z
      zoro_2009
      last edited by

      Nope, just a basic fresh setup, no pfblock or any other custom rule in place !
      And, yes, pfSense does send the request out to the modem, which is really weird !

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        Well then you need to call your isp.. They may have you locked down.. Via the pfsense mac being different then when you run it with ipcop… Did you power cycle the modem when you connected the new device

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        • Z
          zoro_2009
          last edited by

          @johnpoz:

          Well then you need to call your isp.. They may have you locked down.. Via the pfsense mac being different then when you run it with ipcop… Did you power cycle the modem when you connected the new device

          That can't be, because pfSense is connected to one of the LAN ports of the modem (modem is doing pppoe, not pfSense) !
          And to confuse you more, I've tried this setup:

          Internet  –->  Modem  --->  IPCop  --->  pfSense  --->  Clients

          It resulted in the same problem, being modem and IPCop can't reach 8.8.8.8 but can perfectly reach within country hosted servers !

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            There is nothing in pfSense that will do that unless you install pfBlockerNG and filter by country, etc.

            Is it just 8.8.8.8 giving you a problem or is it everything? Can you ping 9.9.9.9 for instance?

            You might have 8.8.8.8 defined as a DNS server with a gateway set or something which creates a host route out that specific interface for that destination out that specific interface. Setting it as a monitor IP address on a gateway does the same.

            Packet capture on your WAN for host 8.8.8.8 and ping it. Stop the capture and look. If you see echo requests and no reply, pfSense is sending it and not receiving a reply. Look upstream.

            If you don't see the echo requests on that interface, you have configured them to be sent someplace else and you will need to figure that out.

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            • Z
              zoro_2009
              last edited by

              @Derelict:

              There is nothing in pfSense that will do that unless you install pfBlockerNG and filter by country, etc.

              Is it just 8.8.8.8 giving you a problem or is it everything? Can you ping 9.9.9.9 for instance?

              You might have 8.8.8.8 defined as a DNS server with a gateway set or something which creates a host route out that specific interface for that destination out that specific interface. Setting it as a monitor IP address on a gateway does the same.

              Packet capture on your WAN for host 8.8.8.8 and ping it. Stop the capture and look. If you see echo requests and no reply, pfSense is sending it and not receiving a reply. Look upstream.

              If you don't see the echo requests on that interface, you have configured them to be sent someplace else and you will need to figure that out.

              Here are some of the details:

              • The modem is configured with 8.8.8.8 as it's main DNS server

              • Can't reach anything on the Internet (not just 8.8.8.8 )

              • Local websites (within my country) works perfectly fine !

              • When I hook up pfSense, the disconnection problem appears, not just pfSense and clients, but even the modem loses Internet, there is a Diagnostic section in the modem which I can ping hosts, and pinging 8.8.8.8 yields nothing from the modem itself !

              • I remove pfSense from the network and replace it with IPCop, and everything goes back to normal !

              Can it be a routing loop ?

              I am not at work right now, so I don't have the chance to take packet capture, but will do that !

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              • Z
                zoro_2009
                last edited by

                @Derelict:

                There is nothing in pfSense that will do that unless you install pfBlockerNG and filter by country, etc.

                Is it just 8.8.8.8 giving you a problem or is it everything? Can you ping 9.9.9.9 for instance?

                You might have 8.8.8.8 defined as a DNS server with a gateway set or something which creates a host route out that specific interface for that destination out that specific interface. Setting it as a monitor IP address on a gateway does the same.

                Packet capture on your WAN for host 8.8.8.8 and ping it. Stop the capture and look. If you see echo requests and no reply, pfSense is sending it and not receiving a reply. Look upstream.

                If you don't see the echo requests on that interface, you have configured them to be sent someplace else and you will need to figure that out.

                can you please elaborate on this, as my guts are telling me the issue is coming from that

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                • DerelictD
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by

                  can you please elaborate on this, as my guts are telling me the issue is coming from that

                  If that was the problem it would only affect the specific addresses you have /32 routes for, not "everything outside your country" as you assert.

                  Post the output from Diagnostics > Command Prompt. Execute this: netstat -rn

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                    zoro_2009
                    last edited by

                    @Derelict:

                    can you please elaborate on this, as my guts are telling me the issue is coming from that

                    If that was the problem it would only affect the specific addresses you have /32 routes for, not "everything outside your country" as you assert.

                    Post the output from Diagnostics > Command Prompt. Execute this: netstat -rn

                    Ok, will do tomorrow at work, thanks !

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                    • Z
                      zoro_2009
                      last edited by

                      Hello, per your request, here is the result of netstat -rn

                      [code]Routing tables
                      
                      Internet:
                      Destination        Gateway            Flags     Netif Expire
                      default            192.168.1.1        UGS         re0
                      127.0.0.1          link#3             UH          lo0
                      172.17.10.0/24     link#2             U           rl0
                      172.17.10.1        link#2             UHS         lo0
                      192.168.1.0/24     link#1             U           re0
                      192.168.1.50       link#1             UHS         lo0[/code]
                      
                      [i]172.17.10.0/24[/i] is the LAN's side and [i]192.168.1.0/24[/i] is the WAN's side hooked to the modem's LAN port !
                      
                      (no IPv6 in place)
                      
                      Thanks !
                      
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                      • DerelictD
                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                        last edited by

                        Nothing interesting there.

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