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    snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!

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    • NogBadTheBadN
      NogBadTheBad
      last edited by

      It definitely is legit these are the guys that do bind.

      Andy

      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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      • chudakC
        chudak @NogBadTheBad
        last edited by

        @nogbadthebad any ideas why is it happening ?

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad
          last edited by

          @chudak said in snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!:

          SID 43687

          https://www.snort.org/rule_docs/1-43687

          Andy

          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          • chudakC
            chudak @NogBadTheBad
            last edited by

            @nogbadthebad not sure what you mean...

            I did submit false positives for 43687 and 39867, but not sure what's next.

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            • NogBadTheBadN
              NogBadTheBad
              last edited by

              If you read the web page I linked, something on your network has tried to lookup something who's FQDN ends in .top

              Just to prove it do a ping blahblahblah.top from your pc.

              Andy

              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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              • chudakC
                chudak @NogBadTheBad
                last edited by

                @nogbadthebad said in snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!:

                blahblahblah.top

                what's "blahblahblah.top" ? and BTW I did disable SIDs as otherwise all DNS blocked

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                • NogBadTheBadN
                  NogBadTheBad @chudak
                  last edited by

                  @chudak said in snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!:

                  @nogbadthebad said in snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!:

                  blahblahblah.top

                  what's "blahblahblah.top" ? and BTW I did disable SIDs as otherwise all DNS blocked

                  it's just some random FQDN to trigger snort.

                  Andy

                  1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                  • chudakC
                    chudak
                    last edited by

                    It looks like
                    "1:43687 INDICATOR-COMPROMISE Suspicious .top dns query"

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                    • NogBadTheBadN
                      NogBadTheBad @chudak
                      last edited by

                      @chudak

                      Exactly, to ping the host it firstly needs to get the IP address.

                      Andy

                      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                      • chudakC
                        chudak
                        last edited by

                        So far it looks like we got no reasonable explanations on what is going on :(

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                        • NogBadTheBadN
                          NogBadTheBad
                          last edited by NogBadTheBad

                          Yes you have, a device on your network is trying to resolve a suspicious TLD.

                          If you don’t like what snort is blocking disable the rule that’s triggered the alert.

                          Andy

                          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                          • chudakC
                            chudak @NogBadTheBad
                            last edited by

                            @nogbadthebad said in snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!:

                            Yes you have, a device on your network is trying to resolve a suspicious TLD!

                            Why do you say "suspicious" vs legit ?

                            Does this look suspicious to you?

                            192.5.5.241 which resolves to f.root-servers.net

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                            • NogBadTheBadN
                              NogBadTheBad
                              last edited by NogBadTheBad

                              The .topTLD does.

                              https://www.spamhaus.org/statistics/tlds/

                              Re read the following:-

                              https://www.snort.org/rule_docs/1-43687

                              It’s not what up the DNS query is being sent to, it’s what is being queried.

                              Andy

                              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                              • chudakC
                                chudak
                                last edited by

                                The end result 192.5.5.241 IP gets blocked.

                                So how do you resolve this issue then ?

                                I see sometimes with Sid 1-43687 enabled that none of my PCs can resolve any names and even 8.8.8.8 gets blocked!

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                                • NogBadTheBadN
                                  NogBadTheBad
                                  last edited by

                                  You need to figure out what host is querying the .top TLD maybe increase the logging level of DNS lookups in pfSense.

                                  Do you just run snort on the WAN interface?

                                  Andy

                                  1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                  • chudakC
                                    chudak @NogBadTheBad
                                    last edited by

                                    @nogbadthebad Yes this is on WAN

                                    All queries coming from the pfSense router itself and I force all clients to use pfSense router DNS only.

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                                    • NogBadTheBadN
                                      NogBadTheBad
                                      last edited by

                                      Enable snort on the LAN as well, you’ll see the host pre NAT.

                                      Otherwise you just see the WAN address.

                                      Andy

                                      1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                      • chudakC
                                        chudak @NogBadTheBad
                                        last edited by

                                        @nogbadthebad said in snort (SID 43687) blocks root DNS servers ?!:

                                        Enable snort on the LAN as well, you’ll see the host pre NAT.

                                        Otherwise you just see the WAN address.

                                        I do have LAN enabled as well.
                                        Looked thru logs with Destination IP 192.5.5.241 and found none.
                                        Which is as I'd expect as no clients can do direct DNS queries.

                                        ???

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                                        • NogBadTheBadN
                                          NogBadTheBad @chudak
                                          last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                          Ah I wonder if your not seeing it on the LAN as the source and destination are contained in $HOME_NET

                                          Maybe change the logging level in the DNS Resolver advanced settings.

                                          Andy

                                          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                          • NogBadTheBadN
                                            NogBadTheBad
                                            last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                            Date	Pri	Proto	Class	Source IP	SPort	Destination IP	DPort	SID	Description
                                            2018-07-03
                                            22:35:13	2	UDP	Potentially Bad Traffic	172.16.2.20
                                              	62541	172.16.2.1
                                              	53	1:2023883
                                              	ET DNS Query to a *.top domain - Likely Hostile
                                            

                                            But I'm using the ET DNS ruleset.

                                            Andy

                                            1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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