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      thezfunk @Xentrk
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      @xentrk said in Blocking Youtube Ads:

      The blocking files block YouTube ads when watching using a web browser. I do get YouTube ads when using the app on my iPad or streaming media player.

      That's exactly what I am noticing. The web browsers are fine, it is the Amazon Fire TV's and Google TV's that still get ads. Sometimes my tablet and phone as well. There must be something else with those Android devices that allow them through.

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        RonpfS @thezfunk
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        @thezfunk
        The devices DNS configuration point to pfsense ?

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          thezfunk @RonpfS
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          @ronpfs said in Blocking Youtube Ads:

          @thezfunk
          The devices DNS configuration point to pfsense ?

          Absolutely.

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            BBcan177 Moderator @thezfunk
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            @thezfunk said in Blocking Youtube Ads:

            @xentrk said in Blocking Youtube Ads:

            The blocking files block YouTube ads when watching using a web browser. I do get YouTube ads when using the app on my iPad or streaming media player.

            That's exactly what I am noticing. The web browsers are fine, it is the Amazon Fire TV's and Google TV's that still get ads. Sometimes my tablet and phone as well. There must be something else with those Android devices that allow them through.

            DNS over HTTPS :)

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              thezfunk @BBcan177
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              @bbcan177

              Anyway to get around that on Android?

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                motific
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                @thezfunk I’d packet capture the dns queries made by those devices and see what comes up.

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                  thezfunk
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                  I wonder if I block all traffic to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 will solve the issue since I don't use them for DNS anyway. I am sure Google must be using their servers for that purpose.

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                    sesipod
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                    Any update to the 8.8.8.8 block ???

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                      reg1982
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                      @BBcan177 just out of curiosity is blocking youtube ads still doable ? It worked for me a long time ago... thanks

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                        BBcan177 Moderator @reg1982
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                        @reg1982 I think it's always going to be hit and miss. There are some feeds that might help but YMMV.

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                          dma_pf
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                          Not quite sure if I should put this in this thread or the pfBlockerNG-devel feedback thread. ButI have an alias in my pfBlockerNG-devel setup to block Youtube ads. I saw in on the widget on the firewall's dashboard that some packets were blocked. Here's a cut and paste of the widget:

                          DNSBL_YoutubeAds 9,481 3680345 Oct 18 03:05:11

                          I clicked on the 3680345 to bring up the Alerts for the alias and this is part of what I got:

                          0_1539851786828_youtubealerts.png

                          All of these alerts are coming from the same iPad. But the iPad was sitting on the kitchen counter at 4:25 in the morning and was on the charger and not being used.

                          How can it be that the iPad is constantly reaching out to Youtube when it is not being used? And at some time stamps have upwards of 1700 duplicate attempts ?

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                            dma_pf
                            last edited by dma_pf

                            Since my last post above this came up in the Alerts
                            0_1539852734051_youtubealerts.png

                            Is that 36,132 accurate?

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                              dma_pf
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                              I did some more snooping around and checked Diagnostics/States and filtered it by the address of the iPad. I get what appears to be thousands of open states from the iPad to the DNSBL VIP that look like this:

                              0_1539855927098_youtubestates.png

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                                motific
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                                The iPad may have been on standby but the app was probably still open. That number of attempts to reach the all-seeing googly eye does look pretty concerning but I have seen ad-slingers doing that with in-game ads and tracking.

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                                  thezfunk @sesipod
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                                  @sesipod Blocking Google's DNS servers did not stop my Android ads. I am telling you, I don't have issues on Windows machines with ads, it is just Android's YouTube app. In the last two weeks it has gotten worse. I now get an ad at almost every single video again. My FireTV, Firestick, Android phones and tablets with the Youtube app are unanfected by the blocking on my pfSense box.

                                  I have yet to take the time for packet capture deep dive. I just got OpenVPN working so I can route my traffic from my phone through home whenever I am out and I also implemented encrypted DNS.

                                  They were only mildly annoying before but the worse they intrude the more driven I am to shut them off. I am now considering a whole VPN solution for security reasons although I know that won't stop the Youtube ads.

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                                    thezfunk
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                                    It looks like some people over on reddit might be onto something:

                                    https://www.reddit.com/r/pihole/comments/9w5swx/i_think_ive_managed_to_block_youtube_ads_with/

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                                      lmannyr
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                                      did you ever figure this out?

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                                        motific @lmannyr
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                                        @lmannyr - I suggested a nice long packet capture to check DNS requests to look for any patterns but I don’t think anyone has done it.

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                                          lmannyr @motific
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                                          @motific Any specific settings I should use under "Diagnostics: Packet Capture"? I'm not sure what I'll be looking for but I sure can try.

                                          Also to clarify, the ads do not show up using desktop browsers. I only see youtube ads when using the youtube app with iPads and iPhones. Don't have an android to test with.

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                                            difiks
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                                            I stopped using chrome and switched to the Brave browser (Download from the official site- https://brave.com). I forgot about advertising on YouTube.
                                            Brave was created by Brendan Eich, one of the founders of the JavaScript programming language, using the Blink engine (developed by Google). All popular browsers are created on this engine - Opera, FireFox and Chrome itself.

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