SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP when trying to connect to webgui
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Ok ran sslscan and it is showing that the PF webgui only supports ssl/tls 1.0.
Running openssl, it appears that it ONLY runs ssl/tls 1.0.
There is no SSL/TLS 1.1, 1.2 or 2.0 listed in any of the output. There are MANY AES and RSA versions listed.
All our PF Appliances and VMs are running into this issue, including our AWS PF Instance, they all run the same version of PF: 2.4.4-RELEASE
We have nothing else running on port 443 on PFsense, openvpn runs on port 9443 - 9999 which are not standard ports we use for our VPN tunnels other than our IPSEC tunnels to AWS which use the ports for IPSEC and supported by AWS.
This issue started right after updates to Chrome 70, and FireFox 63 or Edge after the latest Windows Update.
After doing some heavy digging, it appears that after Chrome 50 and FireFox 52 and Edge Spring Windows Update, support for anything less than ssl/tls 1.2 has been dropped or being phased out due to security issues. Apparently this is industry wide...however I have nothing in any tech notes I get....anyways.... it appears that at Chrome update 70, Firefox Update 63 and Edge October update, SSL/TLS support for 1.0 has finally be completely cut off.
We have also noticed other SSL/TLS based webguis (Cisco Smart Switches, ESXi, GreyLog Appliances) also had this same issue, however after doing an update/upgrade on these via firmware or OS/Application patch installs, they started to work again, our guess is the update/upgrades removed SSL/TLS 1.0 and either upgraded it to 2.0 or something higher than 1.0.
It looks like alot of web based GUIs that are HTTPS are moving to SSL/TLS 1.2 or higher. support, however PF/Netgate are still sitting with only SSL/TLS version 1.0 support.
It looks like PF/NG need to upgrade or patch to remove SSL/TLS 1.0 and only support 1.2 or higher.
So it looks like until this happens, we will need to stay using HTTP mode on PFSense or move to another product.
I am sure there are ways to manually force PF Webgui to SSL/TLS 1.2+, but I am not one for going rogue on appliances without direction from the vendor or just waiting until the vendor comes up with their solution.
I will just need to wait it out, and hope a fix will come before our next security audit OR see if I can get an approved security exceptions or find another product that supports our needs. Otherwise setup a separate dedicated management network with a management workstation/VM that has downgraded browsers installed and no direct internet access, which might raise other security audit concerns.....not sure exactly now what the plan forward will be.
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@beb-consulting said in SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP when trying to connect to webgui:
It looks like alot of web based GUIs that are HTTPS are moving to SSL/TLS 1.2 or higher. support, however PF/Netgate are still sitting with only SSL/TLS version 1.0 support.
Nope, Firefox 63.0.1 is quite happily connecting to pfSense 2.4.4 using TLS 1.2 here. Something is messing with your HTTPS connections there.
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Then you have something wrong on your setup. The pfSense GUI on 2.4.4 only supports TLS 1.1 and 1.2:
ssl_protocols TLSv1.1 TLSv1.2; ssl_ciphers "EECDH+AESGCM:EDH+AESGCM:AES256+EECDH:AES256+EDH";The only time 1.0 is turned on is when Captive Portal is enabled, but even then it is in ADDITION to 1.1 and 1.2 and only for the captive portal web server NOT the GUI.
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Either your connection is being redirected to some other web server (NAT rules/reflection, perhaps) or something else is taking over the GUI port.
What you are seeing is not coming from pfSense.
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Well our PF running version 2.4.4-RELEASE only appears to have SSL/TLS 1.0. I do not see any other version as an option.
I thought it was our BitDefender Total Security on our laptops, but I also tried via our Windows 2012 and Windows 2008 management VMs, and they both have this issue, so also IE on Windows 2008 is impacted by this issue.
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Then check closer, because it isn't coming from pfSense.
Look in
/var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.confif you don't believe me. -
@jimp said in SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP when trying to connect to webgui:
Either your connection is being redirected to some other web server (NAT rules/reflection, perhaps) or something else is taking over the GUI port.
Could also be AV software on the client device or a proxy doing a bad job at MITM.
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@jimp said in SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP when trying to connect to webgui:
/var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.conf
Just checked /var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.conf on one of the 4 PF Appliances, it appears that it ONLY set up for HTTP even though we have HTTPS enabled right now, so something is not updating the actual configuration files when changes are made in the GUI. So this might be some other issue, that is adding to this mess.
server {
listen 80;
listen [::]:80;
However the GUI says HTTPS is enabled on port 443, so I am expecting that it should be listening on port 443, but the file is not reflecting this change, and yes, I did commit the change in the gui, and restart webConfiguratior via SSH.Also tried the same process on another Appliance and getting the same thing. So wonder if some update script within the CGI of the gui is broke? maybe?
We might be in need of a rebuild I am thinking....sigh
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Are you sure there isn't another block in there? It will have port 80 declared if you have the redirect on that sends users from 80->443
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We are using two management VMs, which have nothing but Windows Defender (and it is turned OFF, and NO Windows Firewall.) to rule out AV on the laptops. We are still seeing HTTPS issues, but as said with @jimp above, we are also seeing that configurations files are differing than what the GUI is reporting.
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Also if you want to bump it, use options 16 then 11 from the ssh/console shell and that will force it to reconfigure the GUI and PHP.
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Just tried that, and I now can confirm that /var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.conf is not being updated....the files time stamp has not changed since 10/1/2018, and I JUST made changes today via the GUI so the time stamp should have changed if it was touched by a CGI script or manually....so I think something is broke in our appliances.
This is the entire file.....nothing with port 443, even though the GUI says port 443 is being used.
nginx configuration file
pid /var/run/nginx-webConfigurator.pid;
user root wheel;
worker_processes 2;
error_log syslog:server=unix:/var/run/log,facility=local5;events {
worker_connections 1024;
}http {
include /usr/local/etc/nginx/mime.types;
default_type application/octet-stream;
add_header X-Frame-Options SAMEORIGIN;
server_tokens off;sendfile on; access_log syslog:server=unix:/var/run/log,facility=local5 combined; keepalive_timeout 75; server { listen 80; listen [::]:80; client_max_body_size 200m; gzip on; gzip_types text/plain text/css text/javascript application/x-javascript text/xml application/xml application/xml+rss application/json; root "/usr/local/www/"; location / { index index.php index.html index.htm; } location ~ \.inc$ { deny all; return 403; } location ~ \.php$ { try_files $uri =404; # This line closes a potential security hole # ensuring users can't execute uploaded files # see: http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?2,88845,page=3 fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php-fpm.socket; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name; # Fix httpoxy - https://httpoxy.org/#fix-now fastcgi_param HTTP_PROXY ""; fastcgi_read_timeout 180; include /usr/local/etc/nginx/fastcgi_params; } location ~ (^/status$) { allow 127.0.0.1; deny all; fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php-fpm.socket; fastcgi_index index.php; fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name; # Fix httpoxy - https://httpoxy.org/#fix-now fastcgi_param HTTP_PROXY ""; fastcgi_read_timeout 360; include /usr/local/etc/nginx/fastcgi_params; } }}
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The formatting on that got messed up. Maybe try attaching it as a file.
Also, what do you have in your config.xml for the GUI? It would be under
<system>and then<webgui>.Would look something like this:
<webgui> <protocol>https</protocol> <loginautocomplete></loginautocomplete> <ssl-certref>5b7777344d771</ssl-certref> <dashboardcolumns>2</dashboardcolumns> <port></port> <max_procs>2</max_procs> <nodnsrebindcheck></nodnsrebindcheck> <nohttpreferercheck></nohttpreferercheck> <authmode>Google Cloud Secure LDAP</authmode> <disablehttpredirect></disablehttpredirect> </webgui> -
Thanks all! I think at this point our PF Appliances are so messed up that it is pointless at this point to keep beating a dead horse. I am going to take down our secondary PF Appliances, and rebuild them, see if all works as it should, and if it does swing traffic to the the secondary, then rebuild the primary PF appliances. We only have 4 (2 Primary and 2 Secondary), so it shouldn't take to long, and I have backups of the configurations so that should speed up rebuilding.
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Well if you throw your hands up in the air when we're finally getting closer to finding out what's wrong, it'll never be fixed, if it does turn out to be a bug.
I did find one issue that wouldn't have triggered a restart when toggling some of the checkboxes that need an nginx restart (like the GUI redirect), but it isn't quite what you are hitting.
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Can't post our config.xml file as it errors on here as "Detected Spam" and won't post it.
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I can fix that, just need to spam the thumbs up on your posts so Akismet will pass you through.
Also don't need the whole config.xml just the
<webgui></webgui>tags and what's inside. -
Should be good to post now.
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Also, FYI, clicking Save on system_advanced_admin.php will not trigger a rewrite of the nginx configuration unless something changed that requires it. For example, changing the web server port, protocol, etc. So opening the page and clicking save won't help, but if you switch the port to something else (say, 4433) it would restart with the new settings, then you can change it back. But doing option 11 from the console should always rewrite the nginx config from the contents of config.xml and then restart the web server.
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I have changed the port to 4433, switch from http to https and save : the webgui is accessible via https on port 4433, from there I have explicitly set the port to 443 and again : get error SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP.
I am staying on 4433 for now...
