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    • GrimsonG
      Grimson Banned @god_bmxes
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      @god_bmxes said in Nighthawk X6 WAP issues:

      I have not been able to try my ethernet ports on my X6 but the LAN connection to it is connected to its WAN port.

      Basic rule when using routers/gateways as AP, don't use the WAN port.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Ah, missed that.
        If AP mode is intended to use the WAN that way it should be OK. But I would definitely test connecting the link to pfSense to one of it's 'LAN' ports.

        Steve

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        • GrimsonG
          Grimson Banned @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Nighthawk X6 WAP issues:

          If AP mode is intended to use the WAN that way it should be OK.

          The thing with these devices is that they do allow you to use the WAN port as a LAN port in AP mode. But they do it by using a software bridge between WAN and LAN, and this comes with the usual caveats and performance issues. So if you must you can use that WAN port for a single client, but never use it as your uplink.

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            god_bmxes
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            I just swapped the x6 port I'm using from the Wan to lan4. So I'll see what it does when it comes back up

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Grimson
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              @grimson said in Nighthawk X6 WAP issues:

              The thing with these devices is that they do allow you to use the WAN port as a LAN port in AP mode. But they do it by using a software bridge between WAN and LAN, and this comes with the usual caveats and performance issues.

              That can certainly be the case and if it is the throughput would likely be limited.
              However the ports might be on the same switch IC separated by VLANs in which case AP mode could simply add that port to the existing VLAN. If it's been programmed to do so. 😉
              The wifi is usually bridged to the LAN anyway so it should be capable.

              Steve

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                god_bmxes
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                Well, it didn't take long to find out but the Wan and lan ports are running about the same lol

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                  Ok, that's still testing via the wifi though?

                  We need to confirm it's good (or bad) with a wired client connected to the X6.

                  Steve

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                    god_bmxes
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                      god_bmxes
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                      @stephenw10 so run it as an AP and connect a wired device to connect through the X6?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Yes. If it's still bad there then there is some issue with the connection between the X6 and pfSense.

                        If it's good there then the issue lies with how the wifi is connected to the Ethernet ports in the X6.

                        Steve

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                          god_bmxes
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                          Alright, I'll go and run something off of that it and see. Also downloaded Wireshark to see if there is dropped packets etc

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                          • GrimsonG
                            Grimson Banned @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 said in Nighthawk X6 WAP issues:

                            However the ports might be on the same switch IC separated by VLANs in which case AP mode could simply add that port to the existing VLAN. If it's been programmed to do so. 😉

                            For the last ~10 years I have been knee deep in the open source firmware parts of those Netgear, Linksys and Asus routers, and let me tell you it's ugly and one of the mayor reasons I switched to pfSense for my home too. Yes they could change the VLANs but they don't, or at least they did not until the end of 2017.

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                              god_bmxes
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                              Alright, I have my desktop connected to the X6 on a lan port and I have the line in from the switch coming from the switch going to the lan port aswell on the x6. I do not get internet on the desktop now while it's hardwired to the x6 in AP mode. I did download the cable shark, but I have no ideas what I'm looking at in the logs. So I think the x6 may be the issue right now. Maybe I should look at a different ap

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Hmm, looks like AP mode on that just bridges wifi to the WAN port. And in fact disables the switch entirely. Odd design choice...

                                You could just set it back to router mode, disable DHCP and connect to the LAN ports as you have it. That should do the same thing. As described here for devices that don't have a specific AP mode:
                                https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/wireless/use-an-existing-wireless-router-with-pfsense.html

                                Steve

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                                  god_bmxes @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 I don't need the ports, just need the wifi. I'll probably pick up a ubiquity AP and give that a shot. Also gonna look at the logs and see what is dropping etc. It's all on the same vlan and switch though so there is no reason for the wifi issues in theory

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Yes, running in router mode is not to give you ports rather it's to enable you to test. Also since that's how it's configured normally we know it behaves as expected in router mode.

                                    Steve

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                                      akuma1x @god_bmxes
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                                      @god_bmxes said in Nighthawk X6 WAP issues:

                                      I know some of my hardware is a little OP but I had it laying around. And in a side note my wired is fine except I am getting strict NAT type in some games that could be causing some issues in the future.

                                      Nobody helped you with this part yet, but when you figure out your access point thing, here are the steps to get the NAT type fixed for your game console.

                                      You need to set static DHCP leases for your PS4 or XBox. After this is set, in the NAT section, under Outbound, select Hybrid Outbound NAT and make 1 mapping rule.

                                      Interface: WAN
                                      Protocol: Any
                                      Source: Network, your static IP address for your console goes here, pick /32 from the drop down list
                                      Translation: Static Port checked
                                      Description: PS4 or XBox

                                      When I setup this outbound NAT mapping, my PS4 went from a level 3 to a level 2.

                                      Hope that helps!

                                      Jeff

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                                        god_bmxes
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                                        Thank you, it's so far only on my PC but I'll do that as it already has a static set on it.

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                                          akuma1x @god_bmxes
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                                          @god_bmxes said in Nighthawk X6 WAP issues:

                                          Thank you, it's so far only on my PC but I'll do that as it already has a static set on it.

                                          That should work for a PC too. There are no specific ports set up in that mapping, everything is passed outbound.

                                          Jeff

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