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    'Speed Test' Sites are all but wortheless (I could even say conspiracies)

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    • DerelictD
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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      I have never thought that model was sustainable as residential bandwidth increased. Not at the rates they charge.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer @talaverde
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        @talaverde said in 'Speed Test' Sites are all but wortheless (I could even say conspiracies):

        Speed measurement results from sites like Ookla, DSLReports, etc, are entirely inconsistent these days. If I disable my VPN, AT&T blocks access to the DSLReports speed test.

        The dslreports test will fail with errors or connectivity problems. I have had two sites lately that had problem cable modems that caused the test to fail. Once we replaced the modem with a Broadcom based newer replacement the test began to complete.

        My guess is that your on Uverse??

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          talaverde @chpalmer
          last edited by talaverde

          @chpalmer said in 'Speed Test' Sites are all but wortheless (I could even say conspiracies):

          My guess is that your on Uverse??

          Technically 'Gigapower' as I have gigabit fiber, but.. yea. Same corporate umbrella.

          About 3-6 months ago, they started pushing updates to the modem that caused all sorts of problems. ICMP pings were blocked, etc. Ironically, I've avoided most because my default is via VPN. Anything I try 'raw' has issues I can't even begin to catalog.

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          • KOMK
            KOM
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            Speedtest sites are gamed as much as the ISPs can manage. You must always assume a corporation is cheating if there is no penalty for not cheating.

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              talaverde
              last edited by talaverde

              Yea, there were some low level protections on the Modem that previously worked fine. After that update, they caused all sorts of problems. Even with them all off, there were still problems. As I need to ping DNS servers so pfSense knows if my WAN (or WAN2) is up, I figured out if I change the ping frequency a about 3 times as long, it would stop blocking the ICMP pings. So annoying. Big brother at it again.

              We all know the iSPs suck, but was hoping this thread would turn into a conversation about some good speed test websites. There are less and less. DSLReports was my favorite by far, but it's had problems lately. I think there are too many trackers. Ookla seems to be the best at the moment, but lost about 10-15% of it's speed when it changed it's method of measurement. Worst, it seems very inconsistent.

              @Derilict - How in the hell do you use https://iperf.fr/iperf-servers.php ??

              Any cliff notes for instructions?

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                SSH in and drop to the shell (Menu option 8)

                pkg install -y iperf3
                iperf3 -R4c iperf.he.net

                But those suck too. Only showing a fraction of what ookla does right now. scottlinux is refusing connections.

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                • KOMK
                  KOM
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                  @talaverde said in 'Speed Test' Sites are all but wortheless (I could even say conspiracies):

                  hoping this thread would turn into a conversation about some good speed test websites.

                  The problem is that any known speed test site will be put into the ISP's hyperspeed queue and shaped so that you get the best results, which makes your ISP look good. Many ISPs have started putting Ookla nodes in their own networks, so when you run a test you get the max rated speed on their local network.

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                  • DerelictD
                    Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                    last edited by

                    Which I would argue is what a speed test site should test. ISP has little-to-no control what happens outside their network. When you buy a gigabit residential connection you are not buying a guaranteed gigabit link between you and every destination/VPN provider on the internet.

                    You could buy them but they would be cost-prohibitive.

                    Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                    A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                    DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                    Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                    • KOMK
                      KOM
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                      Yes, but testing the local loop or user-to-headend is kind of pointless for what the user is trying to determine. Testing outside the local network can give you a feeling for what kind of peering is going on, for example. Having a fast last-mile is great unless their links to various backbones are saturated and slow.

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                        talaverde
                        last edited by talaverde

                        Someday, someone will create a REAL speed test which measures the speed to 5-6 various sites (i.e. microsoft, nike, porsche, etc).

                        dslreports was once awesome. I really trusted them. Now that I'm using Firefox and all the anti-tracking toys, their site doesn't work very well. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why. (I simplified that, but you get the point)

                        As an example, I get a bunch of Snort alerts when trying to run dslreports/speedtest now.

                        Sensitive Data was Transmitted Across the Network
                        138:5
                        SENSITIVE-DATA Email Addresses
                        139:1
                        (spp_sdf) SDF Combination Alert

                        I'm assuming these are false alarms, but I don't know enough about Snort to know for sure. At least, why does a speed test have to be throwing false alerts? Anyway, unless someone can explain these to me, I've retired dslreports.

                        I have to admit, speed tests don't mean that much. Having a Porsche that breaks 200mph doesn't really matter 99.999% of the time.

                        My biggest concern these days is with all the anti-tracking apps, like pfBlocker, Snort, uMatrix, Ublock, Squid (for http virus), and so on, all these start adding up to more and more latency. 800 MB/s doesn't matter as much as not taking 5 seconds for a site to load. That's even harder to measure... but it can be.

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                          calbha @talaverde
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