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    Unable to RDP (PFSense)

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    • jahonixJ
      jahonix
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      https://forum.netgate.com/topic/143948/more-details-about-bluekeep-the-microsoft-rdp-vulnerability

      Microsoft's RDP is so flawed that actually the NSA is begging admins to patch their systems immediately.

      There is no scenario where you would want to expose RDP to public access (unless you want to become a malware hub).

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        @jahonix said in Unable to RDP (PFSense):

        There is no scenario where you would want to expose RDP to public access (unless you want to become a malware hub).

        Completely agree.. .But there is MS docs about using it to access your systems in the cloud, etc.

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        • KOMK
          KOM
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          I imagine they would have you restrict the source network first.

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            Abdrouf4995
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            exposing pfsense webUI to the internet should not be considered as an option at all if you are already have a public ip that accessible from the internet you are few clicks a way from setting up openvpn on pfsense. it's really easy it's even got a wizard.
            you can even setup 2 factor auth with it using freeRadius for extra security.
            dude I'm paranoid about opening port on my lan let alone the WAN.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @KOM
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              @KOM said in Unable to RDP (PFSense):

              you restrict the source network first.

              You would sure hope so!! But how many have it open so mobile users can access, etc. etc.

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              • RicoR
                Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
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                I don't get the point what's the problem with setting up some VPN RAS and hide all services behind it. โ˜น
                Depending on User size the work is 5min/5hrs/5 days.
                With someone taking down your whole network encrypting everything and your work is 5 weeks to 5 months...maybe your company is dead then.

                -Rico

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                • KOMK
                  KOM
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                  In my experience, the problem isn't so much that installing & configuring OpenVPN is hard. It's not. The problem is getting your users to accept that this is how to connect now with them whining endlessly, especially if those whining users are senior management. You tell them the risks and they go "Ya ya ya whatever give me my RDP!" Of course, if your network gets owned and goes down, those same idiots will be stomping on your head as why this happened and why didn't you do something about it beforehand.

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                    Abdrouf4995 @KOM
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                    @KOM lol i totally understand these types of people.
                    normally i just outsmart them by telling them that this is the only way to do it.
                    i always argue with my manager that don't tell me how to fix your problem, just tell me your problem i will fix it and don't ask me how i fix it.
                    this is because in most cases the don't have any knowledge about networking.

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                    • RicoR
                      Rico LAYER 8 Rebel Alliance
                      last edited by Rico

                      True words.
                      But if network security is (part) of my business my job is also to convince those idiots. My network my Rules. โ˜บ
                      So what could be the worst case? Fired by a non-tech head chief telling me how to run the network? Sure go ahead, I don't want to make this job then. โ˜บ

                      -Rico

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                      • KOMK
                        KOM @Abdrouf4995
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                        @Abdrouf4995 said in Unable to RDP (PFSense):

                        this is because in most cases the don't have any knowledge about networking.

                        That's never stopped a manager from giving his opinions before ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜† I have personally argued several times with someone who never learns that intra-LAN traffic doesn't hit the firewall. He doesn't know what a gateway is for, and yet he argues with me as if he had a clue. He is the poster boy for Dunning-Kruger Effect:

                        "Incompetent people, the researchers found, are not only poor performers, they are also unable to accurately assess and recognize the quality of their own work. These low performers were also unable to recognize the skill and competence levels of other people, which is part of the reason why they consistently view themselves as better, more capable, and more knowledgeable than others."

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