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    Quick question about limiters

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      maverick_slo
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      Created a redmine ticket for this.
      I believe it`s a regression: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/9643

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        maverick_slo
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        Yes, limiters are semi-broken on 2.5.0 when on Hyper-v at least. Didn`t test on real hardware.

        Also traffic shaper errors are back on 2.5.0, hn0 does not support ALTQ.
        So this one is back and needs to be corrected again: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8954#change-41006

        I also think that those 2 problems are related.

        But I still wish to know, why if I limit to 80Mbit/s traffic on wan slowly rises to 90Mbit/s but on LAN it stays on 80Mbit/s. Overhead? This happens only with torrents, HTTP download does not cause WAN to slowly rise....

        Thanks all!

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          askmyteapot
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          https://forum.netgate.com/post/832477
          See if setting it up that way helps at all.

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            maverick_slo
            last edited by

            I want to have it set on WAN only... Now I have it on LANs and limiters are working OK. But I rather see limiter on WAN.

            The other thing that is bothering me is, why on LAN there is 80Mbit/s and on WAN after 3-5 minutes is 87 Mbit/s... It slowly rises from limited 80 to 90 Mbit/s.

            @jimp any idea why is that? pppoe maybe?

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              maverick_slo
              last edited by

              Can someone test if it behaves the same for you?
              Thanks!

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                w0w
                last edited by

                Steps to reproduce?

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                  maverick_slo
                  last edited by

                  For limiters to sto traffic just set them up and apply floating rule on wan.

                  For traffic difference start torrent client and wait up to 5 minutes and observe if wan goes above defined limit.

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                    w0w @maverick_slo
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                    @maverick_slo
                    Please provide more details for floating rule, applying on WAN, maybe screenshot is better?
                    Thanks.

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                      maverick_slo
                      last edited by

                      OK, so like this:

                      Action: match
                      Quick: DO NOT tick
                      Direction: OUT
                      Protocol: ANY
                      Then in advanced:
                      Gateway: select your gateway
                      In / Out pipe: WAN_UP_Q / WAN_DOWN_Q (those are queues in limiters)

                      And thats about it.
                      If traffic stops you have the same probelm as I do if not you`re on 2.4.4 :)

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                        w0w @maverick_slo
                        last edited by w0w

                        @maverick_slo
                        Yes I can confirm. Traffic stops immediately. (2.5.0-DEVELOPMENT (amd64)
                        built on Mon Jul 29 17:15:22 EDT 2019 )
                        For the second one, I can tell that I have problems with limiters since 2.4.4 released, it's working but not as expected by me. I did not reported it, because I think my ISP changed something in the same time, I do not have bufferbloat anymore without limiters and I got it when enabled it once again.
                        Anyway I can test speed difference later this week.

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                          maverick_slo
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                          Ok cool, thanks. I did report it and when I use them on lan, direction in they work ok, but there is traffic difference. Maybe its expected but it only happens with torrents so far.

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                            w0w
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                            Ok, I used floating rule for LAN, direction in. What I see immediatelly is that internet slows down and I have C rating on dslreports.com for bufferbloat.
                            Tested with 5 porn torrents, after 20 minutes it's went over 150mbit. The limiter is set to 100.

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                              maverick_slo
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                              Yeah thats bad :(
                              But at least porn torrents will be DL-ed faster :)

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                                maverick_slo
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                                This is really annoying.

                                Why WAN differs so much comparing to LAN?
                                This is after 2 minutes of torrenting. Limited to 75 Mbit/s.

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                                And this one after 6 minutes.
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                                LAN stays at 75Mbit/s and WAN goes up to 85 Mbit/s.

                                Why?

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                                  w0w
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                                  I have physical interface ix0 where I have ISP LAN ("ISP_LAN") DHCP 172.x.x.x assigned and also PPPoE ( "WAN" external IP) over it. When I look at Status / Interfaces or Statistics on dashboard all looks recent, PPPoE (named WAN) have huge amount of traffic and ISP_LAN have none or a couple of kbytes. When I look at Status / Traffic Graph then both WAN and ISP_LAN are virtually same, but WAN shows IP addresses and ISP_LAN not.
                                  I don't know is it "by design" or there is something broken.

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