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    Design frustrations with PFsense, VMWare, vLANs, Routing & LACP...

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      sundarnet @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz I like the explanation on that, I needed that earlier instead of this.

      Yah think? Now sure you think that is suppose to work across subnets - ever ;) its a broadcast, why should it or how could it cross L2s?

      Windows solution to this was a wins server ;)
      ;)
      thanks for the help though
      I still got it to work without a WINS server ;)

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        As he demonstrated, it tries DNS first. After that fails it tries NETBIOS.

        DNS works just fine across subnets.

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          sundarnet
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          it still works without a WINS server and the needed info would have been better than this comment! ;)

          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator 7 days ago

          @sundarnet said in Design frustrations with PFsense, VMWare, vLANs, Routing & LACP...:

          now I am having issues with old netbios name resolution across vlan networks
          

          Yah think? Now sure you think that is suppose to work across subnets - ever ;) its a broadcast, why should it or how could it cross L2s?

          Windows solution to this was a wins server ;)

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            sundarnet
            last edited by

            and Im also using Avahi to allow bonjour traffic across vLAN's for Airprint capabilities which works very nicely

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              Yeah dns works, that is not what you asked about - you asked about netbios resolution..

              Which does NOT work across subnets, because it is a broadcast discovery. Was my response a bit snarky - maybe.. It was a stupid question to be honest, you used a term "netbios" which by its very nature tells you it wouldn't work across subnet without wins ;)

              Where did you come up with the term to use, if you don't understand its meaning?

              Have a read
              https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-netbios-name-resolution-really-works/

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                sundarnet
                last edited by sundarnet

                I didn't ask a question just made a comment on what I was trying to do. I must admit my brain was fried after doing that setup in 3-4 days in 2 locations, my own/home location is a lot smaller however,
                then you gave a sparky comment not a solution, after which you gave a semi solution after I found it myself and commented ;)
                just pulling you up on the fact I thought you were here to help not just give cool comments and stuff ;)
                and as little as I know I do try to post solutions to problems if I can

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  No I gave you a solution to your question.. How you resolve netbios over subnets is with a wins server.. Its been like that for like 30 years ;) Back in the days of when windows 3.11 was new..

                  Or you could setup lmhost file as well ;)

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                    sundarnet
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                    @sundarnet said in Design frustrations with PFsense, VMWare, vLANs, Routing & LACP...:

                    adding in for now I am having issues with old netbios name resolution across vlan networks

                    still wondering how you see this as a question ? its a statement.

                    adding in for now I am having issues with old netbios name resolution across vlan networks

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      The solution to your problem is to install a WINS server or me sure DNS resolution is working properly.

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        If you want to resolve "netbios" names across subnets then you either run wins, or some other nbss.. wins is MS version of that... I suggest you read the old rfc 1001, and 1002 ;) From the late 80s...

                        Who does netbios name resolution any more.. Even MS is trying to retire it
                        https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/networking/technologies/wins/wins-top
                        "If you have already deployed WINS on your network, it is recommended that you deploy DNS and then decommission WINS."

                        Or you can do lmhost file, if windows still reads that? I would assume so..

                        If what your actually wanting to do is resolve the host without a fqdn, then correctly setup your search suffix on your machines so they append the correct domain to your host. So your dns query is a fqdn and not just host name.

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                          sundarnet
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                          now you guys are just rambling I already solved my issue myself no thanks to your sparky comments
                          and now you are posting the same solutions I found already
                          so why ?

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