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    GRC Shields up site: Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED)

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    • KOMK
      KOM
      last edited by

      Take that site with a grain of salt. Steve Gibson is known to be somewhat of an alarmist.

      Your floating rules are irrelevant since there is an invisible block rule at the bottom of each interface's ruleset. so that traffic you're explicitly blocking would be already blocked. Delete them all.

      Your WAN rules show you are rejecting ICMP packets instead of blocking. The difference is a block will just silently drop the traffic. A reject actually sends a RST to the other end, so they know something is listening but not allowing them in. That might be what Shields Up is detecting. Delete that reject rule. The default block will take care of it.

      Now try your test again.

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      • M
        Mosquitor @KOM
        last edited by

        @KOM I appreciate your help but it still says it failed the ping test

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        • KOMK
          KOM
          last edited by KOM

          OK, last step is to do a packet capture (Diagnostics - Packet Capture) on WAN with protocol ICMP. Start a capture and then go to SU and run the test again. Stop the capture and see what it says or post it here and I'll read it. If you're not replying to his pings then his site of full of shit.

          Here is an example I just did:

          Screenshot from 2019-09-06 18-12-17.png

          Notice how my pings weren't returned, and the packet capture show the request but not the reply.

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            Mosquitor @KOM
            last edited by

            @KOM

            https://pastebin.com/C7R9B1w9

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            • KOMK
              KOM
              last edited by KOM

              That's pfSense pinging its gateway. 192.168.11.43 is pinging 192.168.11.1, and its getting a reply. What you're looking for is anything from a public address, not something from your LAN.

              Try your test again, but this time put !192.168.11.1 in the Host Address field to filter out the gateway monitoring.

              I'm wondering if your modem is in bridge mode. It should be passing your public IP address to pfSense WAN, but yours is private. That is not unusual depending on how your ISP operates.

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                Mosquitor @KOM
                last edited by

                @KOM said in GRC Shields up site: Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED):

                !192.168.11.1

                first I should tell you I have gateway groups set up for load balancing my vpn

                when checking ping on GRC shields up common ports:
                -packet capture is blank on wan

                -this is the packet capture on vpn server1
                18:45:46.288679 IP 10.70.1.34 > 172.217.218.188: ICMP host 10.70.1.34 unreachable, length 83

                -packet capture is blank on vpn server2

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                • KOMK
                  KOM
                  last edited by KOM

                  If your modem is routing instead of bridging, then it's possible that your modem is what's replying to SU.

                  Your captures don't show any ping reply traffic. That Destination unreachable was to Google for whatever reason.

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                  • M
                    Mosquitor @KOM
                    last edited by Mosquitor

                    @KOM

                    oh hold on, I just captured packets while testing with vpnserver 2 and got this.

                    https://pastebin.com/z0dCx9eV

                    do I have to do the !IP with a different ip for vpn server 2 since its a different gateway ip?

                    also, I dont have access to my modem because its a wireless ISP LTE radio and they never gave me the password. Im afraid to ask them for it since they've been so good to me so far.

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                    • KOMK
                      KOM
                      last edited by

                      And no replies. What's what you would expect to see when you're blocking the traffic. They knock on your door but you don't answer. You're fine. If anything is replying to those ping requests from SU, it's not pfSense.

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                        Mosquitor @KOM
                        last edited by Mosquitor

                        @KOM

                        I did the !vpnserver1_IP in the packetcapture and got this
                        https://pastebin.com/0cxdS32E
                        still no replies

                        Ok. Yeah must just be the modem not in bridge mode is what grc is detecting as you said. So you're also saying hackers cant get any information about devices on my network since the requests never make it to my machine because they are blocked by pfsense? Could they get information about my modem though and attack my modem?

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                        • KOMK
                          KOM
                          last edited by

                          Either that or SU is giving a false positive. It can't be the modem or you would not see the requests at all. So nothing is replying, which makes me believe that SU is wrong.

                          Yes, you're protected by pfSense. As for your modem, there is nothing you can do about that.

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                          • chpalmerC
                            chpalmer @KOM
                            last edited by

                            @KOM said in GRC Shields up site: Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED):

                            Take that site with a grain of salt. Steve Gibson is known to be somewhat of an alarmist.

                            I wish the GRCsucks.com site was still around..

                            Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                            Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                              Mosquitor @KOM
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                              @KOM

                              Ok I understand now. Thank you very much for your help.

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                @KOM said in GRC Shields up site: Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED):

                                somewhat of an alarmist.

                                Hehehe understatement of the week :)

                                The sky is falling is his moto for sure.. Back in the day raw packets were going to be the death of everything, hehehehe

                                Out of the box pfsense is "stealth" to use his stupid term..

                                I specifically allow pings on my wan, so I can actually have outside sites check if up ;) And I even reject the traceroute udp ports so I can get valid traceroute to my IP when remote - where it actually answers..

                                An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
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                                • chpalmerC
                                  chpalmer
                                  last edited by chpalmer

                                  http://attrition.org/errata/charlatan/steve_gibson/

                                  Don't get me wrong.. I think the guy is smart. To a point.

                                  Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                  Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    If you mean smart in selling snake oil to "users" sure ok ;)

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                                    • chpalmerC
                                      chpalmer @johnpoz
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnpoz said in GRC Shields up site: Ping Reply: RECEIVED (FAILED):

                                      If you mean smart in selling snake oil to "users" sure ok ;)

                                      Yup. :)

                                      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                                      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                                      • KOMK
                                        KOM
                                        last edited by

                                        Yes, I remember all his hype back in the day. The sky was always going to fall, everyone ignored him and life went on as usual.

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                                        • M
                                          Mosquitor
                                          last edited by Mosquitor

                                          It turns out, I didnt remove all of the icmp block rules. now that i have, Im having a couple of problems

                                          1. is that I am seeing ICMP replies
                                          2. I see my default dns which is google dns but I have dns over tls setup for cloudflare dns so I dont know why im seeing 8.8.8.8 when connected to vpn server2 and Im not sure to to fix that.

                                          https://pastebin.com/GVSVu7BL

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                                          • KOMK
                                            KOM
                                            last edited by KOM

                                            That's you pinging Google DNS and them replying.

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