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    • DerelictD Offline
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by

      OK those are the zebra routes.

      What is actually in the rtr-2 routing table?

      netstat -rn4

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        acaronmd
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        Routing tables
        
        Internet:
        Destination        Gateway            Flags     Netif Expire
        default            10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.10.10.8/29      link#1             U          vmx0
        10.10.10.11        link#1             UHS         lo0
        10.10.10.16/29     10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.10.10.24/29     10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.10.10.32/29     10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.10.10.40/29     10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.10.55.0/24      10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.10.56.0/22      10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.15.5.2          10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        10.20.0.0/24       link#8             U      vmx1.200
        10.20.0.1          link#8             UHS         lo0
        10.20.1.0/25       link#7             U      vmx1.200
        10.20.1.1          link#7             UHS         lo0
        10.20.2.0/26       10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.20.2.64/26      link#9             U      vmx1.200
        10.20.2.65         link#9             UHS         lo0
        10.20.2.128/26     10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.20.2.192/26     10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.20.3.0/24       link#14            U      vmx1.103
        10.20.3.1          link#14            UHS         lo0
        10.20.4.0/25       link#11            U      vmx1.210
        10.20.4.1          link#11            UHS         lo0
        10.20.5.0/24       10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.20.6.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.20.7.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.20.8.0/24       10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.20.10.0/24      10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        10.20.11.0/24      10.10.10.12        UG1        vmx0
        10.21.0.1          10.10.10.9         UGH1       vmx0
        10.21.1.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.21.2.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.21.3.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.21.4.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.21.5.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.21.6.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.21.7.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.22.0.1          10.10.10.9         UGH1       vmx0
        10.22.1.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.22.2.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.22.4.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.22.5.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.22.6.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.22.7.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.23.0.1          10.10.10.9         UGH1       vmx0
        10.23.1.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.23.2.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.23.3.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.23.4.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.23.5.0/24       10.10.10.9         UG1        vmx0
        10.23.6.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        10.23.7.0/24       10.10.10.10        UGS        vmx0
        24.142.24.0/21     10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        72.172.127.32/27   10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        127.0.0.1          link#4             UH          lo0
        192.168.32.0/30    10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        192.168.91.2       10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.92.2       10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.93.2       10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.94.0/29    10.10.10.10        UG1        vmx0
        192.168.96.2       10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.97.6       10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.97.10      10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.97.14      10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        192.168.98.2       10.10.10.10        UGH1       vmx0
        
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        • DerelictD Offline
          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by Derelict

          Ah. Multiple routers on "WAN".

          It doesn't work that way by default. The WAN interface has route-to to 10.10.10.10 for anything not in the WAN network, which in that case would be 10.10.10.8/29.

          Looking at /tmp/rules.debug would be where I would go next.

          Your diagram shows what looks like multiple interfaces but they are not. They are all just vmx0. That is probably the issue.

          You could also remove the gateway from the pfSense 10.10.10.8/29 interface (remove the gateway setting from the interface itself) and add a gateway in System > Routing for 10.10.10.10 on WAN and set it to be the default and see if that doesn't clear things up a little. You will still have a default route that way but you won't have route-to there and won't have automatic outbound NAT for it.

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            acaronmd
            last edited by

            I believe this is it here:

            pass out  route-to ( vmx0 10.10.10.10 ) from 10.10.10.11 to !10.10.10.8/29 tracker 1000010111 keep state allow-opts label "let out anything from firewall host itself"
            

            the GW already exists
            9d857eee-6678-492c-8126-cbeada81889f-image.png

            And here is the interface

            08c8f60b-070d-4398-9e7f-d88248b48b09-image.png

            When I get a chance, I'll try removing it from the interface itself. I seem to remember having issues trying to remove it when I tried long ago... if all else fails, I could add more interfaces to the VM.

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              acaronmd
              last edited by

              BTW, as you might have noticed already, there's multiple VLANs assigned to the vmx1 interface, while the virtual machine has two interfaces.

              873de9ab-d054-4173-a62a-b00ae2a15e84-image.png

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              • DerelictD Offline
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                Yeah that will eliminate it from having route-to. The gateway should still be there and should still be the default gateway but double-check it.

                There are ways to bypass that using floating rules but in that situation I would just get rid of the gateway on the WAN interface and see how that goes.

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                • DerelictD Offline
                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @acaronmd
                  last edited by

                  @acaronmd said in floating rule works, interface rule does not:

                  BTW, as you might have noticed already, there's multiple VLANs assigned to the vmx1 interface, while the virtual machine has two interfaces.

                  873de9ab-d054-4173-a62a-b00ae2a15e84-image.png

                  VLAN interfaces are discrete as far as pfSense is concerned for routing purposes.

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                    acaronmd
                    last edited by

                    Thanks Derelict, you nailed it. Removed the upstream GW from the WAN, everything still working OK, so then disabled the floating rule, and the interface rule is working:

                    56e7d006-7c42-415a-86c7-5d644484e199-image.png

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                    • kiokomanK Offline
                      kiokoman LAYER 8
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                      glad you solved, i was following the progress myself. I find that 3D of more experienced people are always instructive

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                        acaronmd
                        last edited by

                        Thanks kiokoman, you were on the right track.

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                        • DerelictD Offline
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          That FIN_WAIT_2:ESTABLISHED is still strange. Maybe something to do with the app itself though. Glad it's working.

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