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    Had my pfSense been compromised?

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      hulleyrob @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz sorry i meant weird how we both had connections from the same IP address and the same ports. But i aggree it does look like upnp is running on his firewall.

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        provels
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        Suppose this could be any number of IoT's phoning home? TV, etc.?

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          hulleyrob @provels
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          @provels yeah I thought that too but I tried them one by one tonight and didn't see anything however looking closer at the rules that were opened up it all seems to be Microsoft authentication stuff and I don't run Windows.Screenshot 2019-10-14 at 19.13.00.jpg
          Also I have now added a rule to the ACLs for upnp to stop low ports being opened.

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            provels @hulleyrob
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            @hulleyrob Maybe it's "Steven's Phone"...
            https://alltvspots.com/tag/xfinity-stevens-phone/

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              hulleyrob @provels
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              @provels haha yeah is windows phone even a thing anymore? Could be anything i suppose but I’m going to keep a more careful eye on it for a while.

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                provels @hulleyrob
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                @hulleyrob Glad you asked! I have 2 - 1 Nokia, 1 MS; one for use, one for backup. MS sold 2 and I bought them both! Going on 5 years, same battery, Windows 10, updates monthly. Makes calls and texts, takes pictures, navigation, in-a-pinch Internet, a few apps (not app-happy here). Best $30 (x2) I ever spent. Consumer Cellular, $25/month. I'll stop now.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  514 is syslog, 995 is pop3 ssl, 546 and 547 is dhcpv6... 990 ftps

                  WTF why would any devices open those? 445 is smb over tcp.. 389 LDAP

                  Those are not unique to windows...But I would be concerned with stuff opening those up... Which is why you never run freaking UPnP... Its was a horrible idea from day one..

                  Why not just sniff on your interface for the UPnP ports and see what is hitting them.

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                    ASIC
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                    Hi, I have exactly the same problem - weird incoming connections from the same ip (103.240.140.10). UPnP is disabled. No open WAN ports, no floating rules. Pfsense 2.4.4-RELEASE-p3 (amd64). I googled this IP and realize it has been blacklisted at some places:
                    http://sanyalnet-cloud-vps.freeddns.org/mirai-ips.txt
                    https://whatismyipaddress.eu/downloads/ip-blacklist.txt
                    I have only Windows 7 PC's in my LAN. They all were shut down when this traffic appear. Sorry for my bad English.
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                      provels
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                      https://www.abuseipdb.com/check/103.240.140.10
                      But not why the traffic was passed.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        Your not even showing your rule Ids or description. For all we know you have an any any rule on your wan?

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                          ASIC
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                          When I place the mouse over the green check on left on the rule, it shows "pass/0". When I click it opens a popup: "The rule that triggered this action is:" Nothing else.

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                            ASIC
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                            Rule description is @4294967295.

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                              hulleyrob @ASIC
                              last edited by hulleyrob

                              Does anyone have an idea where the rule id comes from as it looks like we all have the same rule ID number creating these rules maybe this will give us an idea of where they are coming from?

                              Ideally there would be some logging or history but as everyone has said upnp is a bad idea for most people so i guess thats why it doesnt exist.

                              Also they are also 8 seconds apart in batches but this could be the time that the service runs each time?

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                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by johnpoz

                                So I just turned UPnP on - to test.. And then set my plex to use UPnP vs the static forward I have setup.

                                So I disabled my normal port forward.. Then enable UPnP

                                And I get this.
                                upnp.jpg

                                After doing a can you see me for the port listed in the UPnP status 21735

                                Is not coming up with that ID number.. A google for that ID and pfsense came up with this thread
                                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/128685/firewall-log-showing-strange-pass-entry

                                Can we see the raw firewall logs for these entries. Like in that thread.

                                example - here is the raw entry for one of those passed via upnp

                                Oct 15 06:10:27 	filterlog: 224,0,miniupnpd,0,igb1,match,pass,in,4,0x0,,42,13284,0,DF,6,tcp,60,52.202.215.126,192.168.9.10,58368,32400,0,S,2623792563,,26883,,mss;sackOK;TS;nop;wscale
                                

                                You can see from the log that miniupnpd there.. So lets see the raw for these entries.

                                From that other thread
                                Mar 25 14:42:05 pfSense filterlog: 4294967295,,,0,re0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,239,10359,0,DF,6,tcp,36,105.212.87.78,[MYIPADDRESS],2123,23,-4,S,errormsg='[bad hdr length 20 - too long, > 16]',

                                Not exactly sure what "short" means as the reason...

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                                  hulleyrob @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz yeah sure i did look at those last night but couldnt see anything that looked much differant from in the screenshot but maybe you will see something i cannot. Will post as soon as i get home from work. Thanks to everyone for input and testing this.

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                                    ASIC
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                                    Here is my raw filter log for this:
                                    Oct 14 20:42:00 filterlog: 4294967295,,,0,pppoe0,short,pass,in,4,0x0,,241,53405,0,none,17,udp,27,103.240.140.10,[MYIPADDRESS],1810,1985,7

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      @ASIC said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                                      short,

                                      I have no idea what that means... Have never seen that in the logs before.

                                      Found this;
                                      reason res - the reason that action was taken. Possible reasons are match, bad-offset, fragment, short, normalize, memory, bad-timestamp, congestion, ip-option, proto-cksum, state-mismatch, state-insert, state-limit, src-limit and synproxy.

                                      But not sure what "short" actually means?

                                      edit: Ok looks there have been some that match on short (2) - but still not actually finding anything that describes what it actually means

                                      [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: pfctl -s info
                                      Status: Enabled for 30 days 22:17:00          Debug: Urgent
                                      
                                      Interface Stats for igb0              IPv4             IPv6
                                        Bytes In                    350478233746         69232705
                                        Bytes Out                  1405455628533       1128183040
                                        Packets In
                                          Passed                       466867557           311496
                                          Blocked                           8876                1
                                        Packets Out
                                          Passed                       999590646          1171599
                                          Blocked                              0                0
                                      
                                      State Table                          Total             Rate
                                        current entries                      404               
                                        searches                      3535810440         1323.2/s
                                        inserts                         15778842            5.9/s
                                        removals                        15778438            5.9/s
                                      Counters
                                        match                           16542390            6.2/s
                                        bad-offset                             0            0.0/s
                                        fragment                              64            0.0/s
                                        short                                  2            0.0/s
                                        normalize                             21            0.0/s
                                        memory                                 0            0.0/s
                                        bad-timestamp                          0            0.0/s
                                        congestion                             0            0.0/s
                                        ip-option                            125            0.0/s
                                        proto-cksum                            0            0.0/s
                                        state-mismatch                      2834            0.0/s
                                        state-insert                           0            0.0/s
                                        state-limit                            0            0.0/s
                                        src-limit                              0            0.0/s
                                        synproxy                               0            0.0/s
                                        map-failed                             0            0.0/s
                                      [2.4.4-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                                      

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                                        bchan @ASIC
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                                        @ASIC said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                                        Rule description is @4294967295.

                                        Same id as mine.🤔

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                                          ASIC @bchan
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                                          @bchan said in Had my pfSense been compromised?:

                                          4294967295

                                          Maybe because 4294967295(Dec) is equal to FFFFFFFF(Hex).

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                            last edited by johnpoz

                                            Ok so from research so fare

                                            short packets dropped

                                            Is that that is suppose to mean.. but why does it say passed then?

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