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      spyder0552 @Pippin
      last edited by spyder0552

      @Pippin
      WOW...actually slower in reverse. Averaged only 100 Mb/s

      But if I drop the VPN and just go through the firewall, it goes up to 900

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        spyder0552 @spyder0552
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        @spyder0552
        Just to show the config on the client/server side
        Client:
        dev tun
        persist-tun
        persist-key
        cipher AES-128-GCM
        ncp-ciphers AES-128-GCM
        auth SHA256
        tls-client
        client
        resolv-retry infinite
        remote 192.168.2.98 1194 udp4
        verify-x509-name "OpenVPN-Server-Cert" name
        auth-user-pass
        pkcs12 pfSense-UDP4-1194-vpn.p12
        tls-crypt pfSense-UDP4-1194-vpn-tls.key
        remote-cert-tls server

        Server:
        dev ovpns1
        verb 1
        dev-type tun
        dev-node /dev/tun1
        writepid /var/run/openvpn_server1.pid
        #user nobody
        #group nobody
        script-security 3
        daemon
        keepalive 10 60
        ping-timer-rem
        persist-tun
        persist-key
        proto udp4
        cipher AES-128-GCM
        auth SHA256
        up /usr/local/sbin/ovpn-linkup
        down /usr/local/sbin/ovpn-linkdown
        client-connect /usr/local/sbin/openvpn.attributes.sh
        client-disconnect /usr/local/sbin/openvpn.attributes.sh
        local 192.168.2.98
        tls-server
        server 192.168.99.0 255.255.255.0
        client-config-dir /var/etc/openvpn-csc/server1
        username-as-common-name
        plugin /usr/local/lib/openvpn/plugins/openvpn-plugin-auth-script.so /usr/local/sbin/ovpn_auth_verify_async user TG9jYWwgRGF0YWJhc2U= false server1 1194
        tls-verify "/usr/local/sbin/ovpn_auth_verify tls 'OpenVPN-Server-Cert' 1"
        lport 1194
        management /var/etc/openvpn/server1.sock unix
        push "route 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0"
        push "dhcp-option DOMAIN test.local"
        push "dhcp-option DNS 8.8.8.8"
        client-to-client
        ca /var/etc/openvpn/server1.ca
        cert /var/etc/openvpn/server1.cert
        key /var/etc/openvpn/server1.key
        dh /etc/dh-parameters.2048
        tls-crypt /var/etc/openvpn/server1.tls-crypt
        ncp-ciphers AES-128-GCM
        persist-remote-ip
        float
        topology subnet
        fast-io

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @spyder0552
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          @spyder0552 said in OpenVPN Slow - local network test:

          Just setup a HyperV box.

          That doesn't seem like a legit test.. My test will be this

          windows 10 PC --- sg4860--- NAS

          Will set this up later.. But you don't show any of the mtu settings or txqueuelen..

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz

            Ok I just set this up...

            With default everything on open seeing..

            $ iperf3 -c 192.168.9.10
            warning: Ignoring nonsense TCP MSS 334848
            Connecting to host 192.168.9.10, port 5201
            [  5] local 10.0.100.2 port 52251 connected to 192.168.9.10 port 5201
            [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
            [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  25.5 MBytes   214 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  29.5 MBytes   248 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  32.4 MBytes   272 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  31.1 MBytes   261 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  29.5 MBytes   247 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  30.8 MBytes   258 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  30.6 MBytes   257 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  31.6 MBytes   265 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  31.0 MBytes   260 Mbits/sec
            [  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  32.0 MBytes   268 Mbits/sec
            - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
            [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
            [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec   304 MBytes   255 Mbits/sec                  sender
            [  5]   0.00-10.01  sec   304 MBytes   255 Mbits/sec                  receiver
            

            Let me see if can tweak that a bit..

            win10 pc (192.168.200.10) --- switch - 192.168.200.1 (test igb4) pfsense (sg4860) ( igb0 lan) 192.168.9.253 -- switch -- 192.168.9.10 (NAS)

            Tweaking didn't make much difference to be honest, but using aes-128-gcm vs cbc was huge difference.. When changed to cbc vs gcm when to 130 vs mid 200's

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              spyder0552 @johnpoz
              last edited by

              @johnpoz
              Thanks for doing the testing.
              I am surprised to see that the best we can get on a full 1Gb/s link is ~250 Mb/s
              So I guess my ~150Mb/s on the first crack is not horrible?

              I know there is overhead to deal with...just surprised it is so much. This is looking like a 70% loss of speed using OpenVpn.
              Is this what others are seeing as well?

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                openvpn is single threaded.. its easy to use - its never been "speedy" ;)

                Keep in mind my sg4860, not a rocketship vpn endpoint concentrater either..

                It has enough umph to get the job done with lower power requirements.. But prob not what I would use for my vpn endpoint if what I wanted to as much throughput as possible.. Nor would openvpn be my first choice in that area - ipsec is better geared for throughput..

                Openvpn advantage is ease of use, and deployment, etc.

                But overall your sort of test with everything on the same vm host is not really a valid sort of testing.. It works for poc, etc. But its not going to be a good indicator of what sort of bandwidth you could expect when using in the real world..

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                • PippinP
                  Pippin
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                  But overall your sort of test with everything on the same vm host is not really a valid sort of testing

                  Yes I think so too.
                  Looking at the hardware it should be capable of more.
                  .

                  Nor would openvpn be my first choice in that area

                  Wait a bit, who knows ;)

                  I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by

                    @Pippin said in OpenVPN Slow - local network test:

                    Wait a bit, who knows ;)

                    If the goal was pure throughput, openvpn would not be on the top of the list of choices.. It has many other attributes it shines at.. But if what I am looking for is closest to line speed using least amount of horsepower.. Then no its not on the top of really any list ;)

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                      spyder0552 @johnpoz
                      last edited by

                      @johnpoz
                      That is what I am concluding.
                      OpenVPN = easy to deploy and flexible....just not that speedy.

                      I am in the process of setting up another test to use IPSEC and compare. I will post my results for those that are interested.

                      For this initial issue, I am calling it closed as it seems we have beaten the heck out of it. Thank you all for the fantastic support on this. So very much appreciated.

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                      • PippinP
                        Pippin
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                        If the goal was pure throughput, openvpn would not be on the top of the list of choices

                        Sure, but maybe it will get to that top some time in the future.

                        I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
                        Halton Arp

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          ^ we can hope yeah ;)

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                            Pippin @johnpoz
                            last edited by

                            @johnpoz said in OpenVPN Slow - local network test:

                            ^ we can hope yeah ;)

                            Although for Linux but here it is:
                            https://github.com/OpenVPN/ovpn-dco

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                            • PippinP
                              Pippin
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                              Nice:
                              https://reviews.freebsd.org/D34340
                              ๐Ÿ‘ ๐Ÿ™‚

                              I gloomily came to the ironic conclusion that if you take a highly intelligent person and give them the best possible, elite education, then you will most likely wind up with an academic who is completely impervious to reality.
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                                thiasaef @Pippin
                                last edited by thiasaef

                                I get even worse results ...

                                Machine A (pfSense 2.6.0):

                                time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-gcm
                                2022-02-26 19:22:27 Cipher negotiation is disabled since neither P2MP client nor server mode is enabled
                                0.192u 0.000s 0:00.19 100.0%	601+171k 1+0io 0pf+0w
                                

                                Machine B (pfSense 2.6.0):

                                time openvpn --test-crypto --secret /tmp/secret --verb 0 --tun-mtu 20000 --cipher aes-128-gcm
                                2022-02-26 19:22:35 Cipher negotiation is disabled since neither P2MP client nor server mode is enabled
                                0.587u 0.023s 0:00.61 98.3%	618+176k 0+0io 0pf+0w
                                

                                I spent most of the day trying to reach reasonable speeds, and this is the result:

                                iperf3 -c 172.16.16.1 -R
                                Connecting to host 172.16.16.1, port 5201
                                Reverse mode, remote host 172.16.16.1 is sending
                                [  5] local 172.16.16.2 port 53032 connected to 172.16.16.1 port 5201
                                [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
                                [  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  6.10 MBytes  51.2 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  8.03 MBytes  67.4 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  7.28 MBytes  61.1 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  7.60 MBytes  63.8 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  6.77 MBytes  56.8 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  7.17 MBytes  60.1 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  8.87 MBytes  74.4 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  7.41 MBytes  62.2 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   8.00-9.01   sec  7.54 MBytes  62.9 Mbits/sec                  
                                [  5]   9.01-10.00  sec  6.44 MBytes  54.3 Mbits/sec                  
                                - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate         Retr
                                [  5]   0.00-10.14  sec  73.4 MBytes  60.7 Mbits/sec   91             sender
                                [  5]   0.00-10.00  sec  73.2 MBytes  61.4 Mbits/sec                  receiver
                                

                                ๐Ÿ˜ž

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