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    • DaddyGoD
      DaddyGo @moosport
      last edited by

      @moosport said in HP switch and vlan:

      How do i trace where the request is being dropped?

      I think it's time: 😉

      https://www.wireshark.org/download.html
      https://wiki.wireshark.org/VLAN

      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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        moosport
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        looks like i have work to do tonight. :)

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        • DaddyGoD
          DaddyGo @moosport
          last edited by

          @moosport said in HP switch and vlan:

          looks like i have work to do tonight. :)

          exactly yes 😉

          I usually use Wireshark on Cisco systems with the following method.
          If your HP switch knows the SPAN protocol, your life may be easier.

          just an example:
          https://www.ciscozine.com/how-to-analyze-traffic-with-span-feature/

          Cats bury it so they can't see it!
          (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @DaddyGo
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            @DaddyGo

            Any managed switch should be able to do that. Even my crappo TP-Link can. I first did it with Adtran switches several years ago.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            • DaddyGoD
              DaddyGo @JKnott
              last edited by

              @JKnott

              Good to know...😉

              (I wouldn’t have thought of this, to from many SMB category mng. switches)

              for a long time, I only have Cisco and Juniper in my life
              TP-Link...hmmmm, though I wouldn't use it for letter weights either (hahaha)

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @DaddyGo
                last edited by

                @DaddyGo

                Some TP-Link switches have problems with tagged VLANs. Mine doesn't seem to have a problem with port based VLANs though, though it likely would with tagged VLANs. I have it configured to use as a data tap, so I can monitor Ethernet connections with Wireshark.

                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                • DaddyGoD
                  DaddyGo @JKnott
                  last edited by

                  @JKnott

                  Is there a big price difference in your country between the Cisco SMB series (SG350, SG350X, etc.) and the TP-Link devices?

                  Pls don't think that, I hate TP-Link so much, but we haven't used it in a long time, so I only have experience up to the TL-SG series

                  BTW:
                  we deal with AoIP stuff a lot (DANTE protocol) TP-Link is totally dead on the IGMP and DSCP QoS themes
                  (https://www.audinate.com/)

                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @DaddyGo
                    last edited by

                    @DaddyGo

                    I paid about $100 for a Cisco SG 200-08 switch, but that TP-Link TL-SG105E was only around $35.

                    BTW, my early experience with managed switches was with Adtran, as my employer was their Canadian distributor. Adtran's AOS was pretty much a clone of Cisco's IOS.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    • DaddyGoD
                      DaddyGo @JKnott
                      last edited by

                      @JKnott

                      I understand...

                      just a story:
                      for me, TP-Link customer service answered a simple question for three months...
                      the question is was the factory SFP modules know DOM / DDM?

                      then I gave up and tried no further
                      (of course, there was no reference in the description)

                      -there was an SFP diag menu in the GUI of the switches
                      didn't give any info about any DOM / DDM capable SFP, so we thought it only works with his own...

                      the joke is that as it turned out they don't produce SFP modules with DDM / DOM capabilities

                      then what is that menu for in the GUI?

                      Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                      (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                      • JKnottJ
                        JKnott @DaddyGo
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                        @DaddyGo

                        My experience with them was in regards to that VLAN problem, but with my access point rather than a switch. The problem is that multicasts would leak from the native LAN to the VLANs, which meant that devices on the VLAN/2nd SSID would get config info from the native LAN. When I called support, they insisted that that was how VLANs were supposed to work. Eventually, I talked to 2nd level support, who agreed it was a flaw. However, there was no fix forthcoming for my AP.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          moosport @DaddyGo
                          last edited by

                          @DaddyGo said in HP switch and vlan:

                          @moosport said in HP switch and vlan:

                          looks like i have work to do tonight. :)

                          exactly yes 😉

                          I usually use Wireshark on Cisco systems with the following method.
                          If your HP switch knows the SPAN protocol, your life may be easier.

                          just an example:
                          https://www.ciscozine.com/how-to-analyze-traffic-with-span-feature/

                          HP 1800 do support port mirroring. tried wireshark but monitor mode option is greyed out.
                          airmon-ng needs to be installed before trying to enable monitor mode.

                          BTW, does ingress filtering needs to be enabled on the LACP port on the HP switch connecting to the Unifi switch? I left it disabled.

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                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott @moosport
                            last edited by

                            @moosport said in HP switch and vlan:

                            HP 1800 do support port mirroring. tried wireshark but monitor mode option is greyed out.
                            airmon-ng needs to be installed before trying to enable monitor mode.

                            ???
                            Airmon-ng is for WiFi monitoring. What does it have to do with port mirroring?

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                              moosport
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                              Reason is I'm testing the vlan using wifi. The plan is all ports on the HP switch will be on vlan30.
                              iot and guest are on vlan50 and vlan60 off wifi (no lan).

                              Unifi switch will handle vlan40 for cctv which does not go anywhere.

                              currently topology is

                                                     pass all     pass all 
                                                      vlans            vlans
                                                          |                 |        
                              

                              modem -> pfsense -> hp1800 ->unifi16
                              | |
                              vlan20 |
                              vlan40,50,60

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott @moosport
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                                @moosport

                                You run Airmon-ng on a computer with a WiFi NIC. It has nothing to do with switches or VLANs.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  moosport
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                                  yeah.. you're right.. I must lost my mind for a moment there.

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                                    moosport
                                    last edited by

                                    Configure the port mirroring, Now wireshark capture the DHCP request the vlanid 50 for guest.
                                    Vmware has LAN portgroup to allow all. FW rules are set to allow all but blocked to other vlans. Not sure where to look now.

                                    screenshots

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                                      newberger
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                                      I'm no expert, but I just went through setting up Guest and IOT VLANs with Unifi and two HP switches.

                                      If your switch is the J9028B, then here's the link to your switch manual. I can't really tell if your port configuration is correct from those partial screenshots you are linking.

                                      I don't know if it matters, but why are you only allowing TCP through the FW?

                                      Also, you might need to check your NAT rules? I had the port tagging and firewall rules correct, but my NAT was fouled up. In my case, I could get an IP on the VLAN and could see the laptop connected to the VLAN in my pfSense DHCP table, but I could not connect to the internet.

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                                        moosport
                                        last edited by moosport

                                        @newberger said in HP switch and vlan:

                                        Also, you might need to check your NAT rules? I had the po

                                        change FW to allow all and still not getting IP. Prior to using wireshark, HP switch is configured to LAGG with Unifi switch, I had remove the LAGG to enable port mirroring.

                                        Capture trace on the port connecting esxi box and vmnic. DHCP traffic vlan50 is captured on the switch port but not on vmnic.

                                        I have pfblocker running and the NAT rules are for DNSBL.

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