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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      Yeah I know what I moved to 9443 ;) haproxy is listening on that port, Web gui is on 8443..

      My point was lets see his output showing that something is actually listening on 443.. There are no firewall rules that would block pfsense from talking to itself.

      curl.png

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        ludejim
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        In my first post I kinda showed that a curl command to https://192.168.1.1/index.php was functioning. I’m sure you guys are aware that https runs naturally on 443...

        But the same request to https://127.0.0.1/index.php was getting a couldn’t connect message

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          @ludejim said in loopback address being blocked?:

          I’m sure you guys are aware that https runs naturally on 443...

          Yeah doesn't mean anything.. .Like I showed you my gui not listening on 443..

          all we know you have haproxy bound to 192.168.1.1 on 443.. Or openvpn, or something else..

          Let me state this again.. There is NOT A FIREWALL RULE - that blocks pfsense from talking to itself.. If your on pfsense and you can not talk to loopback on port X - then nothing is listening on X... Its that simple..

          Show us something bound to all or loopback listening on 443.. Take all of 0.3 seconds to do that command.. Or better yet

          sockstat | grep :443

          Are you even running that curl command on pfsense? If your running it on some machine - that machine trying to talk to itself via loopback, etc..

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            ludejim
            last edited by ludejim

            @johnpoz

            Here are some screens demonstrating the output you requested:

            Success on https://192.168.1.1:443:
            img

            Fail on loopback:
            img

            Edit:
            I am using haproxy, but only on port 80 that I am aware of...

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              And still not the commands I actually asked for.. Lets see the output of netstat or sockstat actually showing something bound to loopback.

              Sockstat prob better because would actually show "what" is bound to that port.

              Again - there is no firewall rule that could block pfsense from talking to itself.

              You could have some race condition where something else is binding to 443 on loopback?? The gui will try and bind to everything.. So maybe you have something trying to bound to 443, before the gui can bind to it on loopback? So lets see sockstat " grep :443 showing what process if anything is bound to the loopback on that port.

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                ludejim
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                My bad. I just saw your screen shot and thought that’s what you were referring to. Here is a sockstat | grep :443

                Image

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                  ludejim
                  last edited by

                  @johnpoz Now that we know multiple things are bound to loopback, is there a command that could help me determine what those things are. I can see they are Nginx servers, but I don’t know what they are associated with.

                  I do have OpenVPN and HAProxy running. My OpenVPN instance is using the default port of 1194. HAProxy is bound to port 80 for a web server.

                  Unless those two items do something in the background I am unaware of, I’m not sure what the other items are that are binding to port 443 on the loopback.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    nginx is the gui..

                    Those are the pids of the processes, 2 workers and the main one.. on mine for example

                    [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: ps -ax | grep 82772
                    82772  -  Is        0:00.00 nginx: master process /usr/local/sbin/nginx -c /var/etc/nginx-webConfigurator.conf (nginx)
                    38899  1  S+        0:00.00 grep 82772
                    

                    Again there is no firewall rule that would prevent access to itself.. Lets see the output of your curl with the -v so we can see exactly what is going on.

                    [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: curl -v https://127.0.0.1:8443
                    *   Trying 127.0.0.1:8443...
                    * TCP_NODELAY set
                    * Connected to 127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1) port 8443 (#0)
                    * ALPN, offering h2
                    * ALPN, offering http/1.1
                    * Cipher selection: ALL:!EXPORT:!EXPORT40:!EXPORT56:!aNULL:!LOW:!RC4:@STRENGTH
                    * successfully set certificate verify locations:
                    *   CAfile: /usr/local/share/certs/ca-root-nss.crt
                      CApath: none
                    * TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS header, Certificate Status (22):
                    * TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
                    * TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2):
                    * TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS handshake, Certificate (11):
                    * TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS alert, unknown CA (560):
                    * SSL certificate problem: self signed certificate in certificate chain
                    * Closing connection 0
                    curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: self signed certificate in certificate chain
                    More details here: https://curl.haxx.se/docs/sslcerts.html
                    

                    Also sniff on the localhost while you try and do your test.. So you can actually see the connection attempt, and the source IP, etc..

                    So here example you see me doing that above test while doing a packet capture on localhost for my port 8443

                    sniff.png

                    For grins check your loopback rules

                    [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: pfctl -sr | grep loopback
                    pass in on lo0 inet all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv4 loopback"
                    pass out on lo0 inet all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv4 loopback"
                    pass in on lo0 inet6 all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv6 loopback"
                    pass out on lo0 inet6 all flags S/SA keep state label "pass IPv6 loopback"
                    

                    You do show your lo up and on 127.0.0.1? with an ifconfig

                    lo0: flags=8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
                            options=680003<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,LINKSTATE,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                            inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
                            inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x7
                            inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
                            nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                            groups: lo
                    

                    Also so we are sure.. Is this baremetal or is pfsense on some VM?

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                      ludejim
                      last edited by

                      curl command and response:
                      curlCommand

                      Packet capture during curl command captured nothing:
                      PacketCaptureDuringCurlCommand

                      loopback rules:
                      loopbackRules

                      ifconfig lo0 is up:
                      lo0up

                      Great question, my pfsense is being hosted on eSXI.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        do you have a route for loopback?

                        example

                        [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: netstat -rn | grep 127
                        127.0.0.1          link#7             UH          lo0
                        [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                        

                        There is mine..

                        That error in curl
                        Immediate connect fail for 127.0.0.1: Can't assign requested address

                        Can you ping localhost?

                        [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: ping localhost
                        PING localhost (127.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
                        64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.128 ms
                        64 bytes from 127.0.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.063 ms
                        

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                          ludejim
                          last edited by

                          I can’t ping localhost:
                          Cantping

                          Netstat results:
                          Netstat

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                          • kiokomanK
                            kiokoman LAYER 8
                            last edited by kiokoman

                            it's in the wrong interface
                            127.0.0.1 link#4 UH lo0

                            should be lo0, not vmx0
                            idk how you ended up with something like this 😂

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                              Yeah that is clearly Borked!!

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                                ludejim
                                last edited by ludejim

                                Borked it is! I can see how to assign all other interfaces. Anyway to reassign the loopback?

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  Never seen such a thing.. Some weirdness with interfaces being re-arranged when interfaces added in esxi maybe?

                                  I don't know how you would re-assign that to be honest.

                                  I would start over with new VM..

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                                    ludejim
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                                    That’s what I figured. I just backed up all my configurations and began setting up the new VM. It’ll have to wait for tonight because work from home and schooling from home. We need the internet for the day. I’ll let you guys know how it works out. Thanks for the help!

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      I would double check your lo0 assignment before you get to far into the config ;)

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                                        ludejim
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                                        Are you taking about on the new VM? If so, that was my going to be step one.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          Yeah on the new vm ;)

                                          Do you have any other VMs running on this host that you could look to see how the lo0 is assigned?

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                                            ludejim
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                                            I simply rebooted the pfsense VM and the loopback was reassigned to lo0. What a headache for apparently no reason!

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