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    pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!

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      nhatnguyen @Gertjan
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      Tjank you @Gertjan

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      • gtjG
        gtj
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        Hello,

        I've just installed pfblocker and wanted to utilize the GeoIP list provided by Maxmind too. However, I can see that the license is provided to those owning businesses or/and private companies and that it's not destined for home users. Therefore, upon reading the ''terms of use'' I decided to hold back as at teh end of the day I wouldn't want to do anything illegal...

        My question is has anyone of you used the license for personal / home use?

        Many thanks

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Where exactly are you reading that?

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          • gtjG
            gtj @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

            Where exactly are you reading that?

            Before creating an account with Maxmind you have to accept the terms and conditions. It's right in there.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by stephenw10

              This?: https://www.maxmind.com/en/geolite2/eula

              That's what appears to apply here and I'm not seeing those references there. My find function may be broken....

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              • gtjG
                gtj @stephenw10
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                @stephenw10 said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                This?: https://www.maxmind.com/en/geolite2/eula

                That's what appears to apply here and I'm not seeing those references there. My find function may be broken....

                Yes that's it.
                If I understood those wrong, what did you respond to the relevant questions?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  What questions exactly?

                  The word business only appears once there an it doesn't in any way seem to prevent home users.
                  Of course IANAL....

                  Steve

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @gtj
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @gtj said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                    it's not destined for home users

                    Where exactly are you reading that home users can not use it?

                    Where it asks for company when you create your account - just put in homeuse

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                    • gtjG
                      gtj @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                      What questions exactly?

                      The word business only appears once there an it doesn't in any way seem to prevent home users.
                      Of course IANAL....

                      Steve

                      I'm fairly sure it was asking for the type of business you hold along with basic personal details. All options on the drop down menu were business related, with no allowance for home users which is what I am. That obviously held me back from obtaining a license so wondering what option you may have selected to remain legitimate.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Other than my email - this is the only thing they have about me in that account

                        myaccount.png

                        here was the lasttime lic was used to grab update

                        lasttime.png

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                        • gtjG
                          gtj @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                          Other than my email - this is the only thing they have about me in that account

                          myaccount.png

                          here was the lasttime lic was used to grab update

                          lasttime.png
                          Thank you for this.

                          Thanks for the screenshot. I will have another look when I'm home.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Yeah that looks much more like data analytics than a license requirement. To me at least.

                            Steve

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              Just because this reminded me of the nonsense this is about geoip and trying to remove IPs from it..

                              On their do not sell list.. You see for example that one IP - so yes they pulled it from their database... But if that location info was even somewhat accurate - where do you think that .174 address would be located ;)

                              removedfromdb.png

                              GeoIP locations are far from complete or accurate to be honest..

                              But I can for sure look up who owns that IP, and where they use it..

                              22    63 ms    59 ms    59 ms  be-299-rar01.santaclara.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.86.143.94]
                               23    61 ms    60 ms    61 ms  po-1-rur01.sfpine.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.193.134]
                               24    60 ms    60 ms    63 ms  be-11-sur03.sfpine.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.87.226.54]
                               25    61 ms    60 ms    67 ms  hu-0-6-0-0-sur04.sfpine.ca.sfba.comcast.net [68.85.86.94]
                              26     *        *        *     Request timed out.
                              

                              Hmmm I wonder what actual area that IP is in ;) Maybe it really is in Virgina??? <rolleyes> I don't even need the IP to answer from trace.. Just need to get anywhere somewhere close via region.

                              The whole nonsense of removing IPs from a db of where they are located could only be done if every single IP was only stored exactly, not in any way summarized in netblocks, and were actually possible to use them anywhere.. But sorry you can't use a.b.c.X in CA and then use a.b.c.Y in NY ;)

                              Well I guess technically you could get close with really small netblocks ;) But the routing tables would be insane! ;)

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                              • gtjG
                                gtj @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10
                                Hey guys.

                                Just tried again and the dropdown selection is mandatory, not optional.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Yup, because they want to know who is using their services.

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                                    gtj @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                                    Yup, because they want to know who is using their services.

                                    My problem is there's nothing relevant that I could use out of that dropdown options - nothing that applies to actual ''home use''.

                                    I might just be overcautious in the end :)

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      If they don't provide an 'other' option then what else can you do. 😉

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                                      • gtjG
                                        gtj @stephenw10
                                        last edited by

                                        @stephenw10 said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                                        If they don't provide an 'other' option then what else can you do. 😉

                                        Thank you very much for your help. Cheers mate! :)

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          Just pick IT, and security for its use.. That is not lying at all..

                                          Your "home" company, IT and security is how its used..

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                                          • gtjG
                                            gtj @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz said in pfBlockerNG MaxMind Registration required to continue to use the GeoIP functionality!:

                                            Just pick IT, and security for its use.. That is not lying at all..

                                            Your "home" company, IT and security is how its used..

                                            Ended up picking Security and ''Utilities''. Thanks for all your help guys.
                                            I'm setting pfblocker up eight now and it's already started doing a great job.

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