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    What are people using as there pfsense firewall/router?

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    • chpalmerC
      chpalmer @hintslara82
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      @hintslara82 said in What are people using as there pfsense firewall/router?:

      What are people using these days are the watchguard red boxes still any good.

      If you do a Watchguard- stay away from anything older than the XTM5 series.. I do have an XCS which was an email filter box (only 3 interfaces) that I use for testing..

      But something like a newer M400 would be a better choice if you go the red box way.

      Triggering snowflakes one by one..
      Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          Yeah spammer.. Sorry folk - this guy turned out to just be another spammer..

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          • JKnottJ
            JKnott @Raffi_
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            @Raffi_

            Some APC models do not work with pfsense.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              Kartoff
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              I am using Cisco UCS C210 M2 with 2x x5650 CPUs and 24 GB RAM... In there are also 2x Broadcom 57810 dual port 10G adapters, with every port on different VLAN, no LAGG, Tagging etc... All VLAN stuff is dedicated to Cisco Nexus 6000 :)

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @Kartoff
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                @kartoff said in What are people using as there pfsense firewall/router?:

                I am using Cisco UCS C210 M2 with 2x x5650 CPUs and 24 GB RAM... In there are also 2x Broadcom 57810 dual port 10G adapters, with every port on different VLAN, no LAGG, Tagging etc... All VLAN stuff is dedicated to Cisco Nexus 6000 :)

                Outchh ...
                Do you have free electricity ?

                /Bingo

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Kartoff
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                  Your running pfsense on one of these?

                  2579280.jpg

                  That is nuts! ;)

                  How much power does that thing use??

                  Are you running pfsense as VM on that beast.. I couldn't see using that as a firewall/router.. Its a beast.. Old sure - but those things are beasts!!

                  Thing must use like 150W idle..

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                    Kartoff
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                    I used to have free electricity before, but now I don't :( Maybe because of that I still have no habit to pay attention to consumption...
                    As @johnpoz suggested UCS consumption is about 150w-200w according to CIMC where I can't login now because it require flash which is deprecated now...
                    But consumption of UCS is less than half of what Nexus switch consume :

                    N6K-C6001-64P# sh env pow in

                    Power Supply Input:

                    PS Voltage Current Power Status
                    (Volt) (Amp) (Watt)

                    1 224.50 1.04 233.27 ok
                    2 224.00 1.16 259.00 ok

                                   Total: 492.27
                    

                    N6K-C6001-64P#

                    As you see switch consume 500w of power 😊

                    Depends of point of view UCS C210 is a beast, but also not :) For now it do the trick, but I already considering buying something with LGA2011 and PCI-E Gen3 😵
                    pfSense run on bare metal, no VM...
                    I want to try TNSR because it can handle much more traffic and that's why I may need new hardware according to requirements...
                    BTW I will be happy if pfSense start using VPP DPDK etc... in the future because this will enhance performance of existing hardware significantly :)

                    :Edit:
                    I manage to get in CIMC :
                    UCSC210M2PC.PNG

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Kartoff
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                      Haha - I am good ;) hehehe

                      good.png

                      Talk about calling it pretty damn close..

                      I am all for enterprise gear.. In the enterprise where cost of electric is a very minor concern.. The only concern we ever had with power was that we had enough.. And if we didn't we put in more..

                      Thing prob sounds like small plane taxi on the runway with the fans in that thing alone..

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                      • bingo600B
                        bingo600
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                        @work
                        I'll "inherit" 4 x Cisco 9300 in Q1 2021

                        And I just inherited a "free" HP-DLP360 G9
                        Now if i can convince the Boss to get 2 x 10G cards .....

                        10G would be a nice upgrade in the TestLab.

                        Any suggestion for 10G cards for the HP ??

                        I'm not experienced w. Enterprise servers (ILO etc)

                        /Bingo

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                        CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                        LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                          1OF1000Quadrillion
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                          I have a completely overpowered Alienware R4 desktop I am using for pfsense now, my old HP died a couple weeks ago-blown motherboard. The Alienware has a 4790 CPU and 16 GB of ram.
                          I have never seen the CPU go over 6% and never seen the RAM usage over 20%.

                          When this PC running pfsense dies I fully intend on getting the SG3100 or equivalent at minimum from negate. I may even go for something a bit beefier if I upgrade to GB internet by then - I prefer overpowered to "just what's needed" or (gasp) under-powered.

                          If you run old PC hardware and "free" PFSense I encourage you to pay for a snort subscription at minimum to support Netgate's efforts.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @1OF1000Quadrillion
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                            @1of1000quadrillion said in What are people using as there pfsense firewall/router?:

                            pay for a snort subscription at minimum to support Netgate's efforts.

                            Huh?? You mean a support subscription from netgate? The $30/year rule subscription doesn't support netgate or pfsense that I am aware of..

                            Where did you see that the rule subscription supports netgate?

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                              1OF1000Quadrillion @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz

                              Srry man, I didn't..I just assumed that since snort was added on to pfsense that the subscription fee or a portion of it went to netgate...is this not true?

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @1OF1000Quadrillion
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                                No I don't see how it could.. If it did I would think they would announce that somewhere.

                                The best way to support netgate is either buy an appliance, or get a support contract.. Or both ;) But the tac support is a $400 a year.. So it not something your typical home user would get.

                                Kind of shame they got rid of the 100$ a year gold - which was a way to support..

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                                • bmeeksB
                                  bmeeks @1OF1000Quadrillion
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                                  @1of1000quadrillion said in What are people using as there pfsense firewall/router?:

                                  @johnpoz

                                  Srry man, I didn't..I just assumed that since snort was added on to pfsense that the subscription fee or a portion of it went to netgate...is this not true?

                                  No, none of the Snort rules subscription money goes to Netgate. The money you pay to the Snort team is for their rules only. To support Netgate, and by extension pfSense, you can buy their hardware appliances and/or subscribe to their hardware and software support offerings.

                                  The actual Snort software is 100% free. And there are some free rules, but they all have limitations. Some of the free rule packages don't cover all the identified threats out there, while other free packages only provide you rules after they are 30 days or more old. That means you don't get protection from the most recently identified threats.

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                                  • Raffi_R
                                    Raffi_ @1OF1000Quadrillion
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                                    @1of1000quadrillion same here, I will definitely buy and recommend Netgate hardware in the future. However, I am currently supporting netgate by trying to help the community on these forums the best I can. If I can help answer one question that is less work for them, and time is money :)

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      If you just have desire to send some money somewhere.. You could always donate direct to freebsd.

                                      Since pfsense is using freebsd.. Good stuff that happens to or for freebsd, will trickle down to pfsense..

                                      https://freebsdfoundation.org/donate/

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                                      • NogBadTheBadN
                                        NogBadTheBad @bingo600
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                                        @bingo600 said in What are people using as there pfsense firewall/router?:

                                        @work
                                        I'll "inherit" 4 x Cisco 9300 in Q1 2021

                                        I've managed to get an unused Cisco 2960x 24 port POE switch FOC.

                                        Looking at flood the rooms with ethernet at some point.

                                        Andy

                                        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                          1OF1000Quadrillion @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz I was going to ask if there was a paypal donation link for PFSense or something like that for home users, or people who bring their own device for pfsense, like me. I would gladly and quite happily donate $100.00 per year to pfsense directly.

                                          If that's not in the cards and you say FreeBSD donation is good enough for Netgate - then until I need another hardware device I can send that $100 to FreeBSD instead?

                                          Why not bring back the $100.00 Gold "donation", make it voluntary, do not give anything more for it. The donation or $100 a year gold should be for us users to show our appreciation for both the software and the experience that is given freely when ever we have issues or questions. I download, install and use PFSense and have been doing that for the past what 5-6 years? I've learned shitloads from this community and not one person has ever made me feel like an idiot (on purpose that is...:-). NOT all open source communities are as friendly or responsive as this one. That's worth more than $100 a year, but it's what i can afford...sigh...

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