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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yeah I thought it might have VLAN capability in the default firmware since this is one of Linksys's open-source-ready devices with all the extras but it doesn't look like it. But it is very easy to install OpenWRT and then you can.

      Steve

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        duvel
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        All,

        Thanks for all the replies!

        @Gertjan, wasn't sure what you meant by:

        Even experts won't do this :
        @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

        PFSENSE <-> ROUTER <-> wired clients
        

        Change the setup for :

        PFSENSE <-> switch <-> wired clients
        

        My router is my switch also, so I'm configured just like my original post:

        CABLE MODEM <-> PFSENSE <-> ROUTER <-> wired clients
        |
        wireless clients

        The stock firmware of this Linksys 1900 ACS does have VLAN support, but as far as I can see, it doesn't give you an option to address anything wireless. Only the physical switch ports.

        If I wasn't brave enough to go the OpenWRT route, what would be your suggestions for what I'm trying to do?

        Seems like it must be a common want/need for a setup.

        Again, thanks for any suggestions!

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

          Linksys 1900 ACS does have VLAN support,

          For your ISP... not for setting up you own..

          If you want vlan support on such a device - your going to have to go 3rd party firmware.. OpenWRT, DD-WRT.. Those companies do not, or will they most likely ever support vlan support in their firmware for users..

          Or get a real AP...

          Whats the pricepoint on that 1900 - $179 I show it on the linksys site.. For that price you could get a unifi nanoHD, a flexHD or the new AX LR (preorder)..

          When you want to to start playing with stuff like vlans - the typical soho stuff is just not viable. Unless it supports 3rd party and you go that route.. But its just easier to buy a AP that officially supports doing such stuff if you ask me.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            That is one of those devices Linksys marketed specially as open-source ready. It's about as easy as installing OpenWRT gets. 😉

            The Linksys WRT AC series is a set of high performance, multi-core, 802.11ac capable devices, designed to be supported by Openwrt out of the box.
            

            In fact I wasn't entirely sure it's not already running it....

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              Yeah - openwrt is officially support.. If you want to use vlans, that is what you should be running on that hardware.

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              • GertjanG
                Gertjan @duvel
                last edited by

                This :

                @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

                CABLE MODEM <-> PFSENSE <-> ROUTER <-> wired clients

                means to me that you put pfSense as a router behind your cable modem : the pfSense WAN interface is hooked up to the cable modem. The LAN interface is hooked up to all your local devices.

                After pfSense, as your local devices, you have another ROUTER, thus using it's WAN (cabled "Internet" on the back) to the LAN of pfSense. Its 4 LAN interfaces are hooked up to your local devices.

                This is a router after router setup. It can be done. It's like putting a car on a trailer and have the trailer pulled by another car.
                Have a nice ride.

                Your ROUTER should be a simple switch with AP capabilities only. That greatly simplifies your network setup.

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  duvel
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                  @gertjan

                  According to one of the comments on that Linksys site, the router can do "Access point" mode by using "Wireless Repeater" mode. But there is no "AP" mode that I've found.

                  I'm already NOT using the "Internet" port.
                  There is a cable from the LAN on the Pfsense to one of the 4 LAN interfaces.
                  I have de-activated the DHCP server and DNS
                  I have given it a unique IP in the proper LAN range of the Pfsense.

                  I used to use DD-WRT, not OpenWRT. Is there any reason to use one over the other?

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                  • GertjanG
                    Gertjan @duvel
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                    @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

                    I used to use DD-WRT

                    That's what I use for ... decades.

                    On the main setup screen, set

                    bcbe765b-db01-41fa-9ade-84af7b2377b8-image.png

                    and implicit the box is just a AP now.
                    The Internet port can even be assigned as a basic LAN port.

                    @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

                    "Wireless Repeater"

                    is a very special mode of AP usage.

                    @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

                    I'm already NOT using the "Internet" port.

                    Your using the device as a AP, it's not a router.
                    So this

                    @duvel said in Can't see any wired/wireless clients:

                    PFSENSE <-> ROUTER <->

                    is actually

                    PFSENSE <-> (switch with Wifi) <->

                    A router is another beast, and does change your network a lot.

                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      duvel
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                      I think what I'm going to do is install Pfsense on an old PC.
                      I have had bad luck with flashing alt firmware's on routers, so instead of bricking an expensive router, I'll put Pfsense on an old PC that I already have.

                      I'll install multiple pci NIC's, or a multi port NIC, and a pci wireless card. That way, I can have switch and wireless functionality.

                      I'll want to setup VLAN's so the LAN and Wireless are separated, I'll use Pfsense's VLAN capabilities for that.

                      Any suggestions or warnings would be appreciated!

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @duvel
                        last edited by

                        If you're using a different NIC in pfSense for wireless you don't need VLANs. That would only be required to separate the two subnets arriving over the same physical connection.

                        Steve

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                          duvel @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10

                          I was looking at using the following cards:

                          https://www.newegg.com/intel-expi9404ptl/p/N82E16833106019?Item=9SIA4A050P7025

                          and

                          https://www.newegg.com/intel-wi-fi-6-ax200/p/N82E16833106102?Item=N82E16833106102

                          I was thinking about using these in a small form factor PC, such as :

                          https://www.ebay.com/itm/DELL-OPTIPLEX-7040-SFF-CORE-I5-6500-3-20GHZ-750GB-8GB-RAM-NO-OS/363122781352

                          Both Intel cards.

                          The Wifi card comes with a small form factor bracket as pictured, but still trying to find out if the Ethernet one does.

                          Any comments or suggestions?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            That Ethernet card will probably work fine.

                            The wifi card will not work at all. There isn't any 802.11AC support in FreeBSD/pfSense, yet, let alone .AX.
                            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/wireless/hardware.html#recommended-wireless-hardware

                            Steve

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