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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @KDB9000
      last edited by johnpoz

      see my post above yours ;) I edited it.

      from the client you would run iperf3 -c ipaddressofnas

      edit: To @bingo600 rant on smb tests.. I really agree there... While slow smb transfers of can be a symptom of network problems. It doesn't prove that there is a network issue..

      If you do an iperf and its slow - then that can explain your slow smb. If your your iperf test shows the network is fine for speed, then your slow smb problem is something else..

      The iperf you showed are not normal for a gig network... So something is clearly not right there..

      But lets see test from device A to B on the same network - this should be 940ish maxed out if everything is perfect.. But as long as your in the 800's - could just be driver issue, etc.. Maybe you need to do some tweaking of the driver settings or something. But if you were seeing 800ish on your network... You should be seeing more than 80MBps -- should be 100 or so.. And you sure shouldn't be seeing wild fluctuations in the transfer

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        KDB9000 @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

        see my post above yours ;) I edited it.

        from the client you would run iperf3 -c ipaddressofnas

        Not sure which post you are referring to. When I try and run the test to the Synology, I get connection refused (I have it installed and it says it is running).

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @KDB9000
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          And are you running firewall on your NAS?

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            KDB9000 @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

            And are you running firewall on your NAS?

            No, it is disabled.

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            • bingo600B
              bingo600 @KDB9000
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              @kdb9000 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

              @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

              see my post above yours ;) I edited it.

              from the client you would run iperf3 -c ipaddressofnas

              Not sure which post you are referring to. When I try and run the test to the Synology, I get connection refused (I have it installed and it says it is running).

              Now .. Your pfSense or your NAS isn't blocking the iperf packages ?
              I usually "cheat" and run iperf as root ... Not that that would help if iptables is blocking.

              /Bingo

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @KDB9000
                last edited by johnpoz

                Are you running it through pfsense? - port 5201 is the default port.. That will have to be allowed, but refused points to OS sending back icmp saying NO. Ie an OS firewall. If your trying to use a 2.x client on your test client the port is different.. You need to use iperf3 on both client and server - the nas version is 3.7, I uploaded windows 3.9 version which work fine together.

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                  KDB9000 @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                  Are you running it through pfsense? - port 5201 is the default port.. That will have to be allowed, but refused points to OS sending back icmp saying NO. Ie an OS firewall. If your trying to use a 2.x client on your test client the port is different.. You need to use iperf3 on both client and server - the nas version is 3.7, I uploaded windows 3.9 version which work fine together.

                  @bingo600 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                  @kdb9000 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                  @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                  see my post above yours ;) I edited it.

                  from the client you would run iperf3 -c ipaddressofnas

                  Not sure which post you are referring to. When I try and run the test to the Synology, I get connection refused (I have it installed and it says it is running).

                  Now .. Your pfSense or your NAS isn't blocking the iperf packages ?
                  I usually "cheat" and run iperf as root ... Not that that would help if iptables is blocking.

                  /Bingo

                  It is from the system on the same network (so not pfSense at this point). Running a "netstat -nato" on the Synology, I don't see it listening on port 5201. I am using 3.1.3 on Windows.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @KDB9000
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @kdb9000 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                    I don't see it listening on port 5201

                    Then its not running..

                    You see this?

                    ash-4.3# iperf3 -s
                    -----------------------------------------------------------
                    Server listening on 5201
                    -----------------------------------------------------------
                    

                    From another ssh prompt, you should see it running

                    netstat -anl | grep 5201
                    tcp6       0      0 :::5201                 :::*                    LISTEN     
                    

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                    • bingo600B
                      bingo600 @KDB9000
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                      @kdb9000

                      The "server usually" shows what port it listens on

                      iperf3 -s
                      -----------------------------------------------------------
                      Server listening on 5201
                      -----------------------------------------------------------
                      
                      

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                        KDB9000 @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                        @kdb9000 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                        I don't see it listening on port 5201

                        Then its not running..

                        You see this?

                        ash-4.3# iperf3 -s
                        -----------------------------------------------------------
                        Server listening on 5201
                        -----------------------------------------------------------
                        

                        It said running in the GUI. I asked if I needed to run it from the Synology, but you just said to see the post above mine.

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                        • bingo600B
                          bingo600
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                          Is there an echo in here 😊

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            hehee - Yeah something getting missed. I clearly gave instructions in my post

                            seemypost.png

                            And I also uploaded the lastest 3.9 version for windows.. not sure why you would be running some old 3.1 version ;) Are you on linux - if so I Know they have later than 3.1 available

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                            • bingo600B
                              bingo600 @johnpoz
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                              @KDB9000
                              @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                              @bingo600 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

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                              http://www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_6.2/iperf_avoton-6.2_3.7-1.spk

                              Install that spk, then ssh to your nas, then just run iperf3 -s

                              Then hit your nas IP from linux or windows client also running iperf.. I compile iperf3 for windows myself..

                              There was a slight hint in the post

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                oh if your on say 18 of ubuntu, yeah that looks like only 3.1.3.. 21 currently has 3.9

                                but shouldn't matter 3.1 to 3.7 would be ok, same port used.

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                                  KDB9000 @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                                  hehee - Yeah something getting missed. I clearly gave instructions in my post

                                  seemypost.png

                                  And I also uploaded the lastest 3.9 version for windows.. not sure why you would be running some old 3.1 version ;) Are you on linux - if so I Know they have later than 3.1 available

                                  @bingo600 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                                  @KDB9000
                                  @johnpoz said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                                  @bingo600 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                                  DS1817+ Intel Atom C2538 Quad Core 4 Yes Avoton DDR3 2/8 GB

                                  http://www.jadahl.com/iperf-arp-scan/DSM_6.2/iperf_avoton-6.2_3.7-1.spk

                                  Install that spk, then ssh to your nas, then just run iperf3 -s

                                  Then hit your nas IP from linux or windows client also running iperf.. I compile iperf3 for windows myself..

                                  There was a slight hint in the post

                                  Actually, nothing was missed. That part does not show on my side.

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                                    KDB9000 @KDB9000
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                                    The system has been auto updating the posts as they come in. I am guessing you edited it after the initial post and the system did not update it. When I refresh the whole thread, it now shows up (the screen shot was before I refresh the whole thread).

                                    If you look at my post after yours with the Quote, it still shows the initial post quote that I responded to (which doesn't have the included instructions).

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                                    • bingo600B
                                      bingo600 @KDB9000
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                                      @kdb9000
                                      Don't waste time on "instructions" 😊

                                      We WANNA see the iperf3 results

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                                        KDB9000 @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz @bingo600

                                        System A > Synology (Same Network)

                                        >iperf3.exe -c 192.168.10.246
                                        Connecting to host 192.168.10.246, port 5201
                                        [  4] local 192.168.10.60 port 58904 connected to 192.168.10.246 port 5201
                                        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
                                        [  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  74.8 MBytes   627 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  74.8 MBytes   627 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  77.8 MBytes   652 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  78.1 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  63.5 MBytes   533 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  73.6 MBytes   618 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  74.2 MBytes   623 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  76.2 MBytes   640 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  74.4 MBytes   623 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  75.9 MBytes   637 Mbits/sec
                                        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
                                        [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   743 MBytes   623 Mbits/sec                  sender
                                        [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   743 MBytes   623 Mbits/sec                  receiver
                                        
                                        iperf Done.
                                        

                                        System B > Synology (passing through pfSense)

                                        >iperf3.exe -c 192.168.10.246
                                        Connecting to host 192.168.10.246, port 5201
                                        [  4] local 192.168.13.235 port 49405 connected to 192.168.10.246 port 5201
                                        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
                                        [  4]   0.00-1.00   sec  78.0 MBytes   654 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   1.00-2.00   sec  78.2 MBytes   656 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   2.00-3.00   sec  78.0 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   3.00-4.00   sec  78.1 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   4.00-5.00   sec  78.1 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   5.00-6.00   sec  77.8 MBytes   652 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   6.00-7.00   sec  77.9 MBytes   654 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   7.00-8.00   sec  78.1 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   8.00-9.00   sec  78.2 MBytes   656 Mbits/sec
                                        [  4]   9.00-10.00  sec  78.2 MBytes   656 Mbits/sec
                                        - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
                                        [ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bandwidth
                                        [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   781 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec                  sender
                                        [  4]   0.00-10.00  sec   781 MBytes   655 Mbits/sec                  receiver
                                        
                                        iperf Done.
                                        

                                        Drivers on all of the systems are up to date and the correct drives. The Synology is on the latest (and I do mean latest, I had to manually upload it from Synology) version of software. While the iperf seems to indicate there isn't a network issue, it doesn't explain why I have such a difference in speed in Layer 3 to Layer 2 (more then just SMB).
                                        Before I moved the Synology to the same network as System A I would get the following (I don't have actual numbers, so it is from memory at this point) when running a backup:

                                        System A (Main VLAN) > pfSense > Synology (Server VLAN) with speeds in the KB range and failure to complete
                                        System A (Main VLAN) > Synology (Main VLAN) with speeds in the MB range and completed without an issue

                                        When this test was done, I had two VLANs setup on the Synology (one on the Server VLAN and one on the Main VLAN). The backup is setup in the job to go to the Server VLAN IP. I told it to do a standalone backup (which is a full) to the Main VLAN IP of the Synology and got better results without failure of the backup. I also had issues uploading things to the Synology using OwnCloud when it was on the Server VLAN IP (no issues when it was on the Main VLAN IP, and this isn't SMB at this point). And those files were KB in size when it gave me issues. After the move to the Main VLAN, it didn't have an issue with those same files.

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                                        • bingo600B
                                          bingo600 @KDB9000
                                          last edited by bingo600

                                          @kdb9000

                                          Funny that you have better performance on B->S via Vlan , than A->S via L2.
                                          Is your A machine weaker ?

                                          Edit: You don't have Jumboframes enabled in one end do you ?

                                          /Bingo

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                                            KDB9000 @bingo600
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                                            @bingo600 said in Very Poor Performance on VLAN Routing:

                                            @kdb9000

                                            Funny that you have better performance on B->S via Vlan , than A->S via L2.
                                            Is your A machine weaker ?

                                            /Bingo

                                            System A is my main computer, which has a lot of stuff open and running on it (lots of chrome tabs, email, couple instances of Discord, SSH sessions, Skype, etc...). System B is my Gaming rig which has a couple chrome tabs and Discord running for the most part.

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