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2.5.0 builds on XG-7100 - latest build stuck at 27th November, 2020?

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    victorhooi @NollipfSense
    last edited by Dec 20, 2020, 10:27 PM

    @nollipfsense Yup, I just rebooted one of the Netgate XG-7100's - and did another update check - it still seems to be stuck on the November 27th update.

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    (Uptime is 2 minutes, because I just rebooted it).

    This seems to be affecting all the Netgate XG-7100's I have.

    @stephenw10 Do you happen to have any ideas here please?

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      Miikka @victorhooi
      last edited by Dec 21, 2020, 9:01 AM

      Same problem here with SG-2440, stuck in the same build (Nov 27 07:04:32 EST 2020), reboot didn't change the situation.

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        gabacho4 Rebel Alliance @Miikka
        last edited by Dec 21, 2020, 6:47 PM

        Same issue here on my SG-5100. 27 Nov build at 0650.

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          MacDefender
          last edited by Dec 29, 2020, 5:04 PM

          My SG-3100 is also still on 2.5 built on Fri Nov 27 so I guess there are no new ARM versions available for over a month now although x86 versions are released every day?

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            Cosmosisjones @victorhooi
            last edited by Jan 7, 2021, 8:48 PM

            @victorhooi
            I'm on Xg-7100 same issue.

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              Miikka
              last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 8:22 PM

              Update: decided to re-install my SG-2440 with the 2.5.0 development snapshot installer image; now the updates are again available.

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                Cosmosisjones @Miikka
                last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 8:41 PM

                @miikka hmm interesting . Does anyone know which files determine where the updates are looking? I will have to dig into the update process and the config files .

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                  Miikka @Cosmosisjones
                  last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 8:45 PM

                  @cosmosisjones Wild guess: it looks into /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/pfSense.conf

                  Mine seems to be pointing to beta.pfsense.org but I don't remember what it was before the re-install.

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                    gabacho4 Rebel Alliance @Cosmosisjones
                    last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 8:49 PM

                    @cosmosisjones so I think I remember seeing a post from @jimp which indicated that the snapshots are CE versions of pfsense versus the optimized installers that Netgate provides. I double checked the snapshot download page and sure enough, the images are CE. I would strongly suspect that the reason we are not getting new updates from within our existing pfsense installation is because optimized images have not been created for our devices. Jim indicated that the CE images get updated every time a new snapshot is made. So, the question is, do you want to run a CE image or stay on Netgate optimized. My experience in the past with CE was very good. I personally, however, don't feel like doing a fresh install of CE to have most current snapshot, only to them have to do another new install when SG-5100 images of 2.5 are released. You can read up on the types of optimization that Netgate does depending on the hardware. https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/hardware/tune.html Doesn't seem like something anyone couldn't do but I've adopted the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" mentally as I've gotten older.

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                      gabacho4 Rebel Alliance @Miikka
                      last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 8:53 PM

                      @miikka my installation shows:

                      url: "pkg+https://firmware.netgate.com/pkg/pfSense_factory-v2_4_5_amd64-core",

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                        Cosmosisjones @gabacho4
                        last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 8:53 PM

                        @gabacho4
                        Thanks! That would explain a lot!!

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                          Miikka
                          last edited by Jan 12, 2021, 9:13 PM

                          Agree, my approach isn't for everyone, you would also miss the functionalities existing in the Netgate images (AWS wizard etc.).

                          I am planning to follow the CE development branch until 2.5.0 release, at that moment likely doing another re-install with the Netgate image.

                          I had some problems with the old version of 2.5.0 from November and because updates weren't available after 27th Nov then this was my best option at the moment; so far looks like the problems are resolved with the newer SW versions.

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                            vesalius
                            last edited by vesalius Jan 28, 2021, 12:31 AM Jan 28, 2021, 12:31 AM

                            I think pfSense-plus solves the mystery of the recent disappearance of pfSense-CE 2.5.0 builds for negate branded hardware.

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                              Cosmosisjones @vesalius
                              last edited by Jan 28, 2021, 12:34 AM

                              @vesalius was thinking the same thing yesterday...

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                                victorhooi @Cosmosisjones
                                last edited by Feb 4, 2021, 1:00 PM

                                Is anybody from Netgate able to confirm if this is the actual root cause?

                                (i.e. the reason there are no 2.5.x development builds since 27th November, 2020 is due to the imminent launch of pfSense Plus?)

                                If so, is there some way to transition from pfSense 2.5.x to pfSense Plus? Or does it require a full re-install?

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                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate @victorhooi
                                  last edited by Feb 4, 2021, 9:09 PM

                                  @victorhooi said in 2.5.0 builds on XG-7100 - latest build stuck at 27th November, 2020?:

                                  Is anybody from Netgate able to confirm if this is the actual root cause?

                                  (i.e. the reason there are no 2.5.x development builds since 27th November, 2020 is due to the imminent launch of pfSense Plus?)

                                  The public snapshots are disabled while we test things internally getting closer to the release. Since we test more intensely on Netgate hardware, factory snapshots get disabled before CE snapshots because we are more likely to break things as we refine the process. Especially when it comes to the ARM-based systems, if we kept public snapshots up, people might accidentally cause the systems to not boot back up due to a bug in a snapshot, and recovery may not be so simple. Usually those kinds of bugs are short-lived, but it's best if we hit them internally where we can rebuild our own lab/test systems easily, whereas it's not always so easy for customers.

                                  If so, is there some way to transition from pfSense 2.5.x to pfSense Plus? Or does it require a full re-install?

                                  If you are on factory now, it will work just like any other upgrade has in the past, no special action needed.

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                                    splashd1 @jimp
                                    last edited by Feb 9, 2021, 2:32 AM

                                    @jimp I'm fine with the update freeze, but I wanted to try wireguard on my 7100, and it isn't showing up on the 27 Nov build of 2.5.

                                    Is that a bug in my upgrade or a difference between CE and Netgate builds?

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