2.4 Release Estimate / Educated Guess?



  • Anyone have any idea how far out we are from the first release of 2.4?

    I am sure some may have the knee-jerk "it'll be ready when it's ready" response in mind. I know that, of course, and wouldn't want a half-baked release.

    That said, I've got to believe that at this point in the development cycle, some folks in the know probably have an idea / realistic goal in mind, even if it may be kind of fuzzy and/or subject to change. Just looking for an estimate.

    A few months? Summer? By end of the year?

    Also, any guidance as to the plan for the individual steps to expect as we march toward release (i.e., should we expect Beta 1, Beta 2, RC 1, RC 2, Release, etc)?

    Thanks for any guidance you can provide while we watch the bug tracker widdle its way down to zero open issues!



  • I think it'll depend on the number of betatesters that confirm/deny/reply on open tickets.



  • Never having betatested or involved with dev, just based on watching progress, within 3 months?

    Bugs/Features tend to get closed in bursts, we're almost 70% done, were less than 50% done a few weeks back, but lingered near 20% done for several months. It's going to hit a tipping point and everything is going to fall into place. Then comes the real testing. As more people get excited and start trying it as it nears 90%, you'll see and increase in bugs reported.


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    Tons of progress is being made every day and the list of items assigned to 2.4 can change at any time.

    The Redmine roadmap for 2.4 is a rough guide: https://redmine.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/roadmap#2.4.0

    As we get closer to a 2.4 release we will likely review the list of items and push some back to 2.4.1 or 2.5 if it doesn't look like we can solve them in time or if they are not a large concern.

    Testing Feedback state tickets always helps speed things up.

    More than other bugs, pay attention to the list of regressions. Those get more attention since they affect things that were working before but don't work now, as opposed to long-standing bugs or features.



  • Any rough estimate when it'll be released? Q3, Q4?



  • @jimp:

    Tons of progress is being made every day and the list of items assigned to 2.4 can change at any time.

    The Redmine roadmap for 2.4 is a rough guide: https://redmine.pfsense.org/projects/pfsense/roadmap#2.4.0

    As we get closer to a 2.4 release we will likely review the list of items and push some back to 2.4.1 or 2.5 if it doesn't look like we can solve them in time or if they are not a large concern.

    Testing Feedback state tickets always helps speed things up.

    More than other bugs, pay attention to the list of regressions. Those get more attention since they affect things that were working before but don't work now, as opposed to long-standing bugs or features.

    i update to latest snapshot everyday and the only major broken thing for me is 7116 coz due to that traffic shaper doesnt work and its been quiet some time any1 has worked on it, i believe 2.4 wont get released till its fixed as 2.4 release would be incomplete without that



  • FreeBSD 11.1 will be out soon. I could see them waiting until at least after that.


  • Banned

    If the redmine roadmap is any indicator then I wouldn't hold my breath. It has moved something like 5% in the past couple months. Sitting at around 75% now I think? At that rate we're looking at
    sometime around Spring 2018. Which as far as I'm concerned is no problem at all. 2.4.0 BETA has worked great for me for awhile now.

    As mentioned before they could also just push back a bunch of items to 2.4.1 and release very soon, so who knows!

    But if you want the 2.4 features now for a home use system then just read through the known issues and grab the BETA if it works for you!


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    @pfBasic:

    As mentioned before they could also just push back a bunch of items to 2.4.1 and release very soon, so who knows!

    Aside from a few key issues that is the most likely path we'll take. Only a few sizable hurdles left.



  • @Harvy66:

    FreeBSD 11.1 will be out soon. I could see them waiting until at least after that.

    This would allow generation 2 VMs on windows hyper-v 2012R2, which would be a nice cherry on top of 2.4.


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    @bimmerdriver:

    @Harvy66:

    FreeBSD 11.1 will be out soon. I could see them waiting until at least after that.

    This would allow generation 2 VMs on windows hyper-v 2012R2, which would be a nice cherry on top of 2.4.

    Sadly, FreeBSD decided to backport the new, largely untested by the public, IPsec stack into 11.1 which means it's now likely too much of a change to make it into 2.4.



  • @jimp:

    @bimmerdriver:

    @Harvy66:

    FreeBSD 11.1 will be out soon. I could see them waiting until at least after that.

    This would allow generation 2 VMs on windows hyper-v 2012R2, which would be a nice cherry on top of 2.4.

    Sadly, FreeBSD decided to backport the new, largely untested by the public, IPsec stack into 11.1 which means it's now likely too much of a change to make it into 2.4.

    Well, that's disappointing news.



  • @xbipin:

    i update to latest snapshot everyday and the only major broken thing for me is 7116 coz due to that traffic shaper doesnt work and its been quiet some time any1 has worked on it, i believe 2.4 wont get released till its fixed as 2.4 release would be incomplete without that

    Same here… that's the one bug that is causing me the most headaches at home... I'm actually considering going back to 2.3 just so I can work reliably through the summer with all the kids youtube and netflix and whatnot fighting for the bandwidth when I just need a jitter free 96k for VoIP!

    But for my corporate deployment, without the shaping working I couldn't release 2.4 to my 2.3 corporate firewalls (VoIP, Skype, Citrix, etc needing high priority in the offices).



  • @bimmerdriver:

    @Harvy66:

    FreeBSD 11.1 will be out soon. I could see them waiting until at least after that.

    This would allow generation 2 VMs on windows hyper-v 2012R2, which would be a nice cherry on top of 2.4.

    I got a 2.4 build from a few months ago running on a Gen 2 VM. Been upgrading it ever since with only one issue: the proprietary Hyper-V keyboard driver isn't there so the console can't be used. Might be a dealbreaker for some, but it has worked fine for me for months.



  • I'm hopeful the captive portal mac address problem is addressed soon. The bug has been listed for quite some time now and really is a problem for me.



  • @xpxp2002:

    @bimmerdriver:

    @Harvy66:

    FreeBSD 11.1 will be out soon. I could see them waiting until at least after that.

    This would allow generation 2 VMs on windows hyper-v 2012R2, which would be a nice cherry on top of 2.4.

    I got a 2.4 build from a few months ago running on a Gen 2 VM. Been upgrading it ever since with only one issue: the proprietary Hyper-V keyboard driver isn't there so the console can't be used. Might be a dealbreaker for some, but it has worked fine for me for months.

    I heard this is possible, but I'd prefer to have a working keyboard so I'll stick with generation 1 until generation 2 is properly supported.


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