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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      Well then really the only way you could have 2 IPs being seen by the ISP would be from IPv6..  You can look on pfsense to see what IPs it has..

      Prob have a IPv4 address and IPv6, etc.. Out of the box pfsense wold not grab more than 1 IPv4 on its wan interface… Unless you setup VIP?

      You can see exactly what IPs pfsense has right on the dashboard..  Do you see IPv6 Addresses?

      Another thought on your days you see 2 IPs.. You do understand that since your pfsense mac of its wan interface is different than the mac of your wifi router.. If you say where changing them in an out for testing that your ISP would see 2 IPs for those days... The IPv4 pfsense wan got, and then the IPv4 your wifi router got.

      To be honest - that would be my guess to why your seeing 2 IPs on some days.

      If you want to swap your pfsense and wifi router in and out of your connection and use the same IP.. You could prob setup mac clone on either pfsense or your wifi router so that you present the same MAC address to your ISP so via dhcp you should always get the same address.  I use to do this all the time when running router as vm.. I could swap out different distros and even different copies of pfsense and always have the same public IP because I set all the VMs to use the same MAC on their wan interface.. Also meant I didn't have to reboot my cable modem when changing routers in and out.

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        mikecala
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        There is no IPv6 address that shows up in the list.

        Also the IP issue isn't caused by the routers being switched because I only switched after weeks of the dual IPs and then after two days pass it shows only the one IP. I only switched to try to narrow down the cause of the issue after the fact.

        Also I don't have to worry about rebooting a modem because I don't have one.

        Right now since I just connected it I will have to wait another two days to see if this problem still persists. I also have bandwidthd, Status_Traffic_Totals, and darkstat running now to try to see what I see compared to the ISP.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          Well it could very well be your IP is just changing.. I would write down what your IP is currently on pfsense, and check it now and then to see if it is changing.. It could be that they are just handing you a different IP… Your wan on pfsense is set to dhcp right.

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            mikecala
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            So I switched routers back to only pfsense on the 1st and waited until the 3rd to check the usage to be sure that it wasn't just two IPs from both routers being on in one day and it showed two IPs again.

            I called customer support and of course they told me my router is in "bridge mode" again but that's how great outsourced tech support is..

            They also gave me the two IPs I was pulling and one of them is the one that is assigned to my WAN interface in pfsense and the other one does not show up in the interfaces section. Is there any way to track down where this is coming from since I have that IP now?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              So they told you your routers in bridge mode - so pfsense has a public IP on its wan..

              And it didn't change?  You checked on it now and then and made sure it didn't change like on day 2, etc..  This 2nd IP they say your using is also public..

              You have nothing else plugged into your modem that is in bridge mode, and it has no WIFI on?  Just the 1 wire from modem to pfsense wan?

              You do not have pfsense setup in bridge mode do you?  You can view all the ips pfsense would have on the diag, routes.. This would show you any vips you might of setup even..  See attached I created a vip 1.2.3.4 just to show as example…

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                mikecala
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                Yes the IP has been the same since I plugged it in and it's still the same.

                It's fiber so no modem but yes pfsense is the first thing the network touches coming into my room.

                I have not setup any bridges or anything in pfsense. Straight out of the box install plus adding the monitoring packages.

                I looked in the routes section and the second IP does not show up.

                It does show up in bandwidthd as the second highest traffic amount right under the router itself. I attached a picture of its entry.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  What is the IP - look to its mac in your arp table tell you what device it is.

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                    mikecala
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                    Well, I found my issue. The IPMI interface on my board binds itself to the first ethernet port so the ipmi interface was pulling the second IP and causing that extra traffic on my network…

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      how did you track that down?

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                        mikecala
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                        So once I got the IP from my ISP I found it showing up in the ARP table with the MAC address matching with my board's manufacturer. I decided to just type in the IP, which admittedly should have been something I did before, and it popped up with my IPMI web console. I did some research and figured out that by default the IMPI bonds to the dedicated port as well as the first ethernet port so I went in and disabled it.

                        Definitely not something I thought about at all honestly.

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          Good catch… For sure - you sure wouldn't want your ipmi open to the public internet..

                          Such an option should really be disabled in the bios out of the box..

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                            mikecala
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                            You'd think but I guess since it's not really a board meant to be a router they just assume it's only going to be inside the network.

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                            • simondngS
                              simondng @mikecala
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                              @mikecala Man, wish I'd seen this thread a few days ago. I've had exactly the same problem, new pfSense install - using 30GB+ extra a day more than normal. What board are you using?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Wow, that's concerning. What on IPMI there is using 30GB a day? Was it exposed with default credentials?

                                Steve

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                                • simondngS
                                  simondng @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 I'm not sure if it was IPMI, or some other misconfiguration on my behalf.

                                  It's a APU.2C4 board.

                                  I've taken it offline for now, as it used up the 1TB allowance last month.

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                                    gzorn
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                                    It seems like many business branded comps (Dell, Lenovo, etc) have security issues on onboard ethernet (exposing either IPMI or AMT). On my router machine, I'm only using the onboard ethernet for a 'management lan' that gets no internet access at all. IPMI and switch management interfaces shouldn't need to access the internet anyway. WAN and LANs served by an intel 4-port card. I just don't trust those manufacturers to patch management bugs fast enough.

                                    For all those who ran into this data usage issue, I'd urge you to reset your IPMI or AMT interface to factory defaults before locking it down. It's an annoyingly nontrivial task in some cases. If it's got gigs of data usage, I'd be concerned that a bad actor somewhere has pwned your management interface.

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