Clarify if pfsense works for this setup



  • Hello fine folks.

    I'm searching on google for some help but i'm not finding, I think because I don't even know what the right words to type.

    For example i can't find how it's called when you have a lot of antennas and just one name, like in mall or big event locations.

    My friend will open a restaurant and we want to have a killer wifi set up, because it will have a lot of eletronics on the restaurant connected to the wifi network and all the customers will be connected too.

    I'm want to know if this is possible or if i need to go to openwrt or dd-wrt or combine them in some way.

    What we want is:

    • A lot of antennas distributed on the restaurant ( we pretend to start with 4)

    • So we plug a ethernet cable on the pc (one nic with 4 ports) and run to that rj45 antenna with POE (for a clean setup  ;D)

    • Have 2 different wifi network, one for the restaurant with 40% off the band reserved, and a client networks with the other 60%

    Is this possible with pfsense?

    Thanks a lot.



  • If you're really in for "killer WiFi" then be prepared to pay for "killer WiFi equipment" and "killer WiFi expertise" as well as network know how in general. You don't get any of that for free, especially not expertise.

    pfSense is a router and a firewall. It doesn't do much in terms of WiFi, but I guess you know that already (you mention RJ45 PoE run to the "antenna" which in fact is an access point). Any of the *WRTs won't help you any better than what pfSense does.

    How big is that joint in square meters and how many devices do you expect on the network? Yours and from guests.
    What internet speed do you have and want to share with your clients?
    Which country is that?



  • hi, thanks for the reply.

    Well, since a lot of youtube video said that a pc with pfsense it will be better than any store router (tp-link, linksys) I thought that it would be possible to do a killer wifi setup with an old/cheap current pc, some cables and some access point from aliexpress.

    The problem its not much the size, but its an old building with lots of concrete and steel bars, so i wanted to have a antenna on each room that the internert should be working all the time, the management software it's on cloud so… it has to work.

    We can't touch the building because is an old building (I couldn't find the right word, it's like historic) and the city do not let us modify too much and stuff. So it has to be wifi all the things.

    The size I think that it will be 200 square meters.

    worst case scenario would be 20 from restaurant and 40-60 clients.

    internet it will be fiber 200 down and 100 up so, 50/25 to the restaurant and 150/75 to clients.

    Brazil

    PS: I know some stuff because i'm a web developer, I know that some softwares does something, but I'm not an expert you know.
    But if i'm pointed to the right direction I can hold my own weight.

    Thanks.


  • Netgate

    I thought that it would be possible to do a killer wifi setup with an old/cheap current pc, some cables and some access point from aliexpress.

    Killer wifi with an old PC and cheap, made in China crap. Good luck.

    worst case scenario would be 20 from restaurant and 40-60 clients.

    So 60-80 wireless associations. Much equipment will fall over with that.

    I would get myself a couple Ruckus R600s (One would probably do but one is none, two is one.) It that is too expensive then a couple Ubiquiti UAP-Pros and a cloud key, and a switch something like a D-Link DGS-1210-10P.

    We can't touch the building because is an old building (I couldn't find the right word, it's like historic)

    Sorry, but killer wifi requires killer placement of the radios. You will need to get ethernet from where the radios need to be to the switch.

    You might want to hire a professional.



  • @alfaex:

    Well, since a lot of youtube video said that …

    How comes that people don't read specs and manuals anymore but think it is sufficient to watch someone explaining something on YouTube? I've seen too many videos there where someone tells plain bullshit or explains stuff he has absolutely no clue about.

    @alfaex:

    The size I think that it will be 200 square meters.

    That's about the size of my house. Lots of concrete and steel in here.
    I installed 4 Ruckus APs and I'm about to configure a ZoneDirector as well.
    Do not go for less in a commercial environment where/when business depends on the network.
    My installation only has to satisfy my wife, the kids and their friends…

    @alfaex:

    worst case scenario would be 20 from restaurant and 40-60 clients.

    As Derelict already said: that's nothing a (cheap) AP from AliExpress can handle. Absolutely not.
    Take his advise and get someone local with WiFi knowledge to set it up for you. YouTube doesn't help with trouble shooting.

    @alfaex:

    Brazil

    I don't know a thing about that jurisdiction so I can't help with what you may or may not do or even can do at all.

    @alfaex:

    PS: I know some stuff because i'm a web developer…

    If you were a taxi driver you wouldn't want to prepare a race car for Indy500, would you?
    Do yourself a favour and get a local professional.



  • ok guys.

    Thanks for the feedback and i will search for a professional.

    Cheers.