Akismet Spam



  • Hi,

    I cannot post a reply in a thread because it says Akismet Spam.
    What can I do?

    Error
    Post content was flagged as spam by Akismet.com
    

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  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    What is it you were trying to post?

    If it's a lot of text like log data, first make sure it's wrapped in code tags by selecting it and then using the </> icon on the formatting toolbar.

    If it still gets flagged, put the text into an text file and then include it as an attachment on your post.



  • It is a lot of text and it's in code tags.
    I will try to attach them as a file, thank you.

    Edit:
    Wow. Now I'm getting a message I cannot post more than once in 120 seconds because I'm a new user.
    Can we get back to the old Forum, please. This one I don't like very much.



  • @pmisch said in Akismet Spam:

    Wow. Now I'm getting a message I cannot post more than once in 120 seconds because I'm a new user.

    Posting limit also existed when the old forum was used.

    Images can be upload (no, better : just Ctrl- Paste them in your reply !)
    Boatloads of log text or code de not belong in a forum message use sites like pastebin.org (free !) - you just pas the link here.



  • @gertjan
    Yeah, but I am no new user at all. It seems clear that this is a migration issue.



  • Well, stay connected then, and you'll meet the Chinese University spammer - he popped up last month several times, leaving dozens of messages everywhere. They have to be cleaned out manually.

    Every forum-site admin always searches to auto-handle this - and up until today, no good anti-spam system has been found. Positive hits happens ones in a while.

    edit : I have this reflex : before hitting Submit, I Ctrl-A Ctrl-C first ^^



  • That's sad. It tells how bad the software is you've been using.
    @gertjan said in Akismet Spam:

    edit : I have this reflex : before hitting Submit, I Ctrl-A Ctrl-C first ^^



  • @pmisch said in Akismet Spam:

    That's sad. It tells how bad the software is you've been using.

    One of the software parts is my brain. And I know, doesn't get any better for a long time now.
    More serious : if the connection resets, I hit the Akismet wall, or any other phenomena that proofs that our Internet connection fails ones in a while, I have a spare copy on the clipboard, so I can redo and adapt my post ^^


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    @pmisch said in Akismet Spam:

    Can we get back to the old Forum, please. This one I don't like very much.

    No. The old forum is gone and not coming back.

    If you get some upvotes on your posts then the restrictions get relaxed past a certain point. But we didn't give everyone any karma/upvotes/etc on upgrade.



  • @pmisch Me too. Simple text post and simple text reply rejected as spam. Has not been a problem in the past. Most annoying. Makes me feel un-welcome.


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    I know it can be a little rough but the alternative is making the mods delete dozens of spam posts/accounts by hand per day, which is not sustainable. Even with a CAPTCHA and registration question, spam was still flowing in steadily. Akismet is the only thing so far that has actually made a dent in it. Now we get maybe single digits of spam posts per week.



  • I support this new technique very much.
    Maybe there a possibility of flag specific accounts trusted. You will never get spam from my account that's for sure ;-)


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    That's where the karma level comes in. Once you get to 10 pts it won't consider your posts spam.


  • LAYER 8 Global Moderator

    I can tell you for sure that number of flagged posts as spam has gone way done that is for sure..



  • @johnpoz Guess I am considered to be a casualty in Netgate's war against spam. 10 pts is my target to prove that I am an upstanding citizen of this community.


  • LAYER 8 Global Moderator

    Ya need 1 more after I gave you one - let me look over your previous to find something worth thumbsup up ;)

    Ok found one from a few days back where you gave actuate advice on firewall rules needed - your now at 10 ;) Don't freaking SPAM!!! hehehe



  • @johnpoz Thank you.



  • yeah its very frustrating when you have to post 2nd time and have to wait for another 120 seconds. It kills all the rhythm of any discussion.


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    @baozhai said in Akismet Spam:

    yeah its very frustrating when you have to post 2nd time and have to wait for another 120 seconds. It kills all the rhythm of any discussion.

    It's a forum, not a real-time chat. That said, the time restriction is another limit that gets lifted when you have positive reputation. It only takes 3 reputation to get past that restriction.


  • LAYER 8 Global Moderator

    Which is hard to do with 4 posts total ;) What possible flow could you have missed with a total of 4 posts?? In the whole month you have been here WTF? ;)



  • Damnit, my posts keep getting flagged as spam, too

    It's pretty depressing when trying to get support your hard-checked post with lots of technical details gets thrown in the rubbish in the blink of an eye.

    Crap, is this going to get flagged, too?



  • I just can't get any of my posts to work

    I am seriously considering changing to a different platform since I can't seem to get support for pfSense anymore


  • Rebel Alliance Netgate Administrator

    @averyfreeman said in Akismet Spam:

    I just can't get any of my posts to work

    I am seriously considering changing to a different platform since I can't seem to get support for pfSense anymore

    I have upvoted a several of your posts.. you should be good to post your questions.



  • Thank you, that's very nice of you

    Unfortunately I already managed to install ClearOS and create a working bond0 device for my WAN in that time, which was what my support question was for a couple days ago. I must've had at least 6-7 posts I attempted flagged before I just gave up, akismet really doesn't like new people pasting clipboards of their issues.

    I might be back, we'll see how it goes... have a nice day.



  • Same problem here, took me half an hour to post a thread, posted it piece by piece. Plus I had to wait 2 minutes in between as I'm a new user. After half an hour I finally found out that the problem was the output of ifconfig. This is ridiculous.

    Although i really want to like pfSense I'm showered with bad experiences all around pfsense. Just took me 8 hours to find a stupid bug in the tinc package which I found on the first day I ever used pfSense in my life. Then when trying to post about a workaround here I had to spend another 30 minutes just to get around the spam protection. I wonder what the next days will bring...
    Enough ranted, really no offense, but please consider disabling akismet or at least consider reconfiguring it to be less strict. This is so absolutely frustrating to write one's fingers to the bone for a good post and than crippling it down to find what akismet is complaining about.


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    Unfortunately, NodeBB doesn't have any controls for Akismet other than treating users differently once they reach a certain level of reputation. Disabling Akismet isn't something we can do right now. Without Akismet, we get hit with a ton of spam posts and it puts a large burden on the mods to watch the forum constantly and clean it up.

    If you have something you want to post, but can't, then either use a pastebin site / github gist, or post and request some upvotes to get past the initial reputation threshold (5). Above that reputation level Akismet won't treat your posts like spam if it gets tripped.



  • @buergi said in Akismet Spam:

    but please consider disabling akismet

    Ok, seems to me you were not here when the forum - the recent version or the old version - was swamped every morning with dozens of publicity messages (at best) or all kind images with people not wearing cloths at all. Or some Chinese lecture. Or paramedic info. Before I could read about the latest NAT installation that didn't work I was already informed about the latest Viagra offers.

    askimet works.



  • Well,

    I just logged in for the first time in a while, and was confronted with this monstrosity of a forum. Seriously, anything that doesn't use standard vbulletin code and a similar layout needs to die.

    I spent a while typing up a long question (some 3000 characters) for the virtualization subforum and it just repeatedly rejects it as spam with no indication at all what I can do differently.

    This is just awful.



  • @gertjan said in Akismet Spam:

    askimet works.

    If it has even one false positive it is junk and needs to go.

    The usability on this new forum is so bad it's almost as if they are TRYING to drive away users.



  • Jesus Christ. How come I am being flagged as a "new user" when my profile says I joined 7 YEARS ago and have 172 posts (none of which are spam)?

    This Akismet thing is a massive fail. There are so many good forum platforms out there, and they chose this Markdown garbage... Xenforo would have been a good choice, once properly set up.

    That, and I can't even access the damned page from my VPN. No one should ever access the internet for any purpose without an anonymous VPN, and blocking them should be illegal.

    Seriously, cloudflare is my worst enemy.



  • @gertjan said in Akismet Spam:

    One of the software parts is my brain. And I know, doesn't get any better for a long time now.
    More serious : if the connection resets, I hit the Akismet wall, or any other phenomena that proofs that our Internet connection fails ones in a while, I have a spare copy on the clipboard, so I can redo and adapt my post ^^

    This is a hack that shouldn't be necessary.

    Good software never requires workarounds.



  • @jimp said in Akismet Spam:

    That's where the karma level comes in. Once you get to 10 pts it won't consider your posts spam.

    Well, this is a relief.

    They COULD have automatically given users in good standing that have been around for years a few of these points right off of the bat though.



  • @buergi said in Akismet Spam:

    Same problem here, took me half an hour to post a thread, posted it piece by piece. Plus I had to wait 2 minutes in between as I'm a new user. After half an hour I finally found out that the problem was the output of ifconfig. This is ridiculous.

    Although i really want to like pfSense I'm showered with bad experiences all around pfsense. Just took me 8 hours to find a stupid bug in the tinc package which I found on the first day I ever used pfSense in my life. Then when trying to post about a workaround here I had to spend another 30 minutes just to get around the spam protection. I wonder what the next days will bring...
    Enough ranted, really no offense, but please consider disabling akismet or at least consider reconfiguring it to be less strict. This is so absolutely frustrating to write one's fingers to the bone for a good post and than crippling it down to find what akismet is complaining about.

    Thanks for the tip of splitting things up.

    I tried that on my long post in the virtualization subforum, but I can't get past even the first few lines without being marked as spam for some reason.

    That's the problem with machine learning and AI. When it goes wrong, no one understands why, because it has drawn some stupid conclusion on its own without being told to.

    I expect we will see many more problems like this in our modern "enlightened" AI world.

    Damn I wish I could just go back to the 90's. The internet was so much better then. No one spying on me, harvesting my data, and all the annoying people weren't online yet. It was just a bunch of geeks and their servers running under their desks at colleges and workplaces across the country.

    As soon as money entered the equation, everything went to shit. There should be no expectation of making money on the internet.


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    Chill out. You are spamming the thread. Maybe it correctly identified your behavior.

    Take a while. Collect your thoughts. It's a forum, not a stream-of-consciousness chat server.

    This thread has outlived its usefulness, and all questions have already been answered. It's not intended to be for rants.


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