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XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4

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    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
    last edited by Dec 19, 2018, 1:34 PM

    Permission denied in the nginx log means something cut it off, like a state being killed/removed or possibly a firewall rule prevented the outbound connection.

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      netblues @jimp
      last edited by Dec 19, 2018, 2:12 PM

      @jimp Well, definitely not on the configuration. It is repeatable on every config update, and others have it too.
      If it was linux I would look at selinux...
      Now, since we are talking freebsd here, it looks like an audit denial (but my freebsd knowledge is limited)

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        Caligari @jimp
        last edited by Caligari Jan 18, 2019, 4:20 PM Jan 18, 2019, 4:20 PM

        @jimp said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

        Permission denied in the nginx log means something cut it off, like a state being killed/removed or possibly a firewall rule prevented the outbound connection.

        We have been suffering this problem since 2.4.4 upgrade and insisted with 2.4.4-p1...

        Does 2.4.4-p2 solve this problem? (it announces a lot of bugfixes with nginx/php)

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          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
          last edited by Derelict Jan 18, 2019, 6:24 PM Jan 18, 2019, 6:20 PM

          XMLRPC sync is working fine for lots and lots of people in 2.4.4, 2.4.4-p1 or 2.4.4-p2. It is something else unique to your setup.

          Do you have State Killing on Gateway Failure enabled? (System > Advanced, Miscellaneous)

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            DrNick 0 @Derelict
            last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 6:50 PM

            @derelict Perhaps that should be "setups"? Problem still exists for me too with my config described above on -p1.

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              netblues @Derelict
              last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 7:25 PM

              @derelict xmlrpc sync IS working fine even with the error.
              And yes, state killing on gateway failure seems to nail it.
              Unchecking the box eliminates xmlrpcsync errors.
              I don't recall anymore why this was checked in the first place, but IMHO looks like a bug to me.

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                bbrendon @netblues
                last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 7:45 PM

                It seems to me the pfsense devs are still in denial about this one. The syncing is working so I just ignore it.

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                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @netblues
                  last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 8:14 PM

                  @netblues said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

                  I don't recall anymore why this was checked in the first place, but IMHO looks like a bug to me.

                  If you are killing the state XMLRPC sync is using the connection will fail in different ways.

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                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                    last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 8:27 PM

                    There is no bug. There is nothing to be in denial about.

                    • You chose the option to kill states on gateway failure
                    • You have a gateway down
                    • XMLRPC sync triggers a filter reload
                    • Firewall notices the down gateway and kills states
                    • XMLRPC dies because the state died

                    It's doing exactly what you told it to do. It may not be what you intended it to do, but it's doing what you told it to do.

                    Fix the down gateway or unset that option.

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                      netblues @jimp
                      last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 9:25 PM

                      @jimp So what you say is that whenever I update a firewall rule I have a gateway down?

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                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 10:21 PM

                        Any time there is a filter reload (applying firewall rules, interface events, schedules, etc) it checks for down gateways and kills states if you have that option enabled.

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                          Caligari @Derelict
                          last edited by Jan 18, 2019, 11:40 PM

                          @derelict said in XMLRPC sync errors since upgrade to 2.4.4:

                          Do you have State Killing on Gateway Failure enabled? (System > Advanced, Miscellaneous)

                          Yes! Checked on primary and unchecked on secondary, but unchecked both and the problem has disappeared ✌

                          Now, I am wondering in what way "state killing on gw failure" is related to the "xmlrpc sync"... 👀

                          Thank you for the support!

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                            netblues @Caligari
                            last edited by Jan 19, 2019, 3:44 AM

                            It wouldn't be the case in a pre 2.4.4 setup for sure.

                            So it is really All states killing in gateway failure, not just the ones related to the gateway.
                            In my case I have 2 gateways being down on secondary (because they are used by primary)
                            Disabling the check on secondary and keeping it on primary (which has no down gw normaly) works fine.

                            I suppose that if all states are killed, nginx looses the connection while expecting the final ok from standby peer thus complaining.
                            I just wonder in @Caligari situation if state kiling on primary also affects the admin http connection.

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                              jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                              last edited by Jan 19, 2019, 4:10 AM

                              It's been the same since 2.3.x, not a new change. If it worked before, it was only by accident.

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                                netblues @jimp
                                last edited by Jan 19, 2019, 4:21 AM

                                @jimp So, an accidental feature then :). Which makes me wonder if kill all states was really working on a pre 2.4.4 setup.
                                I do recall switching from master to backup whlie checking voip connections and not loosing them or the https connection to the console.
                                I just checked and it now affects the web console as the case should be. @2.4.4p2

                                win win situation :P

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                                  netblues
                                  last edited by Jan 24, 2019, 4:49 AM

                                  Now I know why I have kill states on gateway failover.
                                  sip states!!
                                  Without that, sip registrations don't work after failover until states are cleared manually.
                                  Funny thing is that current calls via pf aren't lost and keep working via the f/o peer.
                                  However new calls don't work.
                                  Obviously at the same time sip host can ping all sip remote gw via pfsense just fine.

                                  I believe we need an exclusion here. Sync interface is a special use interface, and doesn't have a gateway too.
                                  How about a feature of not clearing states on interfaces that do NOT have a gateway?
                                  Will that break anything ?
                                  (it would be better to fix sip issue as it dates back years too)

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                                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                    last edited by Jan 24, 2019, 5:29 PM

                                    The only way that happens is if you have a gateway somewhere that is down. The sync interface wouldn't normally be considered at all, it's just an innocent bystander. Look at your gateway list and see what shows as 'down', and fix that.

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                                      netblues @jimp
                                      last edited by Jan 24, 2019, 5:57 PM

                                      @jimp Innocent it is. however it does produce lots or noise emails.
                                      As for the gateways, well, nothing is down apart from openvpn bound to carp interfaces that go up when secondary node kicks in.
                                      So.. it is technically down but it cannot be "fixed" since it aint broken :)

                                      I understand, its a feature, but......

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                                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                                        last edited by Jan 24, 2019, 6:47 PM

                                        Unless you are using those OpenVPN gateways in a gateway group, you can disable monitoring for them so they are always considered up, and thus would not trigger the state kill.

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                                          netblues @jimp
                                          last edited by Jan 24, 2019, 7:01 PM

                                          @jimp As a matter of fact I do, but it starts to feel too limited anyway, don't you think?
                                          Especially when this was "fixed" in 2.4.4
                                          And what if one has pppoe interfaces bound to carp vips, which is much more common, and also needs gateway monitoring?

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