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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      I have a cable modem and bridge.. Pfsense is 64.53.x.x, I can access my cable modem IP 192.168.100.1 without doing any of that..

      PC on lan at 192.168.9.100, just put 192.168.100.1 in the browser and bing bang zoom... No vips, not odd nats, no disable reply-to.. No floating rules.

      0_1542224935991_modem.png

      What modem is this with 192.168.8.1 - the common standard for cable modems is 100.1

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire
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        @mrvarga said in Access to the modem web page:

        192.168.8.1

        Since this is a private IP did you go to Interfaces/WAN and uncheck "block private networks"?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          That shouldn't matter since the state should allow it - the block rfc1918 would be for unsolicited traffic hitting the wan with a source IP of rfc1918.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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            Absolutely does not work like that here.

            Disabling reply-to made sense at the time but I had to pcap it off the firewall to know to try it.

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            • DerelictD
              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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              Yeah that would only matter if the modem was connecting to WAN.

              I do block outbound RFC1918/Unroutable so I did have to carve out an exception for that.

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              • mrvargaM
                mrvarga @SteveITS
                last edited by

                @teamits said in Access to the modem web page:

                Since this is a private IP did you go to Interfaces/WAN and uncheck "block private networks"?

                No because the wan interface is set in DHCP mode and have directly the external ip address.

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                • mrvargaM
                  mrvarga
                  last edited by

                  This is the procedure I have followed to put the modem in bridge mode https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2670005
                  But now i can mode get access to it.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    So some devices when you put in bridge mode no longer listen on management IP.. So that might be the reason you can not access it..

                    192.168.8.1 is not your typical view my info on this IP sort of IP.. if that was the old lan IP you had before you put it bridge mode - its highly likely that IP is just gone and you should prob need to use something like the industry standard of 192.168.100.1

                    So your device is this Huawei E5186?

                    From looking at that hack to get bridge mode..

                    Note you must plug in the ethernet cable into the 4th LAN port labeled LAN/WAN, then plug the other end into your router servicing your LAN.
                    

                    So if you want to get to 192.168.8.1 I would think you need to be connected to one of the other ports since it seems to put that 4th port into bridge mode... So plug a box into one of the other ports to access its 192.168.8.1

                    Do you have another interface on pfsense - you could connect one of the other ports to this interface, or vlan to access it.. That is the way I read that hack of a bridge mode for this device.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Yes, looks like you might need an extra connection there. But test it from pfSense as I outlined, that is in the same subnet so is able to connect (if you don't need an extra connection).

                      Usually with this type of setup you need to NAT the traffic as most "modems" have no facility for adding a route of gateway on the LAN side. They can only talk back to devices in the subnet.

                      Steve

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        Comcast business gateways are like this... 1 Port of the switch on them can be put in bridge mode, and the other ports are natted..

                        Your not going to be able to hit the LAN ip from the bridged interface.. Your going to need to connect to one of the non bridged ports.

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                        • mrvargaM
                          mrvarga
                          last edited by mrvarga

                          I connect another lan cable to pfsense router lan3 port to the model lan1 port. Set the interface to dhcp but this is the result:
                          0_1542317982836_9bcface7-c832-4e30-b8df-ac90f3ba4a1e-image.png
                          If I set the iterface to static ip 192.168.8.100/24 and I try to ping the router:
                          0_1542320214224_ccbb9106-4964-449c-b03a-fa4c95e6a34d-image.png

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                          • DerelictD
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by

                            If you have to access the modem (honestly, how often does one really have to do this?) connect a laptop.

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                            • mrvargaM
                              mrvarga @Derelict
                              last edited by

                              @derelict yes this is right, but is just for learn new things.
                              I think the error is in the modem ip address, the right is 192.168.1.1 and not the 192.168.8.1.
                              When I arrive home I will try...

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                last edited by

                                From what I researched the default IP is the 8, but sure that could of been changed... My point was that once you put it in bridge mode that lan IP of what is actually a gateway and not a "modem" is not going to be available on the bridged interface.. So you will have to access if via one of its other switch ports.

                                This is completely different than say a "cable" modem that bridges your connection to the router behind (pfsense) and then also listens on 192.168.100.1 address on the same L2..

                                I concur with Derelict there is really little reason to just not connect a box to one of the "natted" switch ports on that gateway device if you need to access it... But its also possible to to connect and interface to pfsense..

                                The question comes down to the details of that device - which I have no actual experience with other than that thread you listed and I breezed through. But what I do have experience with is other "cable" gateways where you can put 1 port of the switch in bridge mode and device connected will get a public IP.. and other devices on other ports will get a natted ip - but in such cases dhcp is still running and connecting a device set for dhcp should get an address.

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                                • mrvargaM
                                  mrvarga
                                  last edited by mrvarga

                                  Can be my setting wrong, because somtimes (once every two days I lost the wan connection and the wan IP is 0.0.0.0) so I don't have internet and and have to manualy reboot the modem...
                                  The modem is Huawei E5186 put in bridge mode by this guide (https://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2670005), and the WAN interface setting si:
                                  0_1543155915302_37a37d0d-dc0c-4694-8e52-597cdf7ef85b-image.png
                                  And this is the result:
                                  0_1543156043557_b2172a24-630e-455d-aa23-7481b7a73e41-image.png
                                  I have also a lot of this log....
                                  0_1543156562531_2902a840-1e28-4ca9-a889-1b0e31fdd565-image.png

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                                  • BabizB
                                    Babiz @mrvarga
                                    last edited by

                                    @mrvarga Hi!

                                    Here is my current working layout of pfSense, I can login to modem web ui
                                    at 192.168.254.1 when it is propely configured with pppoe 8/35 link , dhcp server and bridge mode!
                                    Because I add another MODEM interface side by side to PPPoe interface.

                                    pfSense do all work and no need to make additional hybrid nat rule with this simple layout.
                                    I also setup ipsec vpn and for reach remote device for mamaging watching remote stuffs, I do on remote site some hybrid nat and vips to re routing traffic on my local subnet. yes it's really amazing 🚪
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                                    Cheers.

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                                    • mrvargaM
                                      mrvarga @Babiz
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                                      @babiz 😱

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        If you're seeing an odd IP on the WAN you should check the dhcp logs to see if it's actually being handed to you. You migyht need to reject DHCP leases from the 'modem' itself. Though 0.0.0.0 is not normally something you would see in that situation.

                                        https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/book/interfaces/ipv4-wan-types.html#dhcp

                                        Steve

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                                          discy @johnpoz
                                          last edited by discy

                                          PC on lan at 192.168.9.100, just put 192.168.100.1 in the browser and bing bang zoom... No vips, not odd nats, no disable reply-to.. No floating rules.

                                          Same for me. Nothing to be done. 192.168.100.1 Ziggo/UPC/Vodafone "Connect-box" in bridge.

                                          Just had to add a rule on top of LAN from LAN-NET to the modem on WAN_DHCP gateway because other rules mess it up.

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                                          • M
                                            MarioNava
                                            last edited by MarioNava

                                            Hello there.
                                            I had the same problem, accessing my router behind PfSense.
                                            Internal lan is 192.168.0.x Pfsense on 192.168.0.254
                                            Router is 192.168.1.254
                                            There was no way to access it. Then i checked my network card IPs.
                                            I had 2 assigned. 192.168.0.22 and 192.168.1.22
                                            Removed 192.168.1.22 amd then BANG! router interface is reachable.
                                            Is really THAT simple as other people wrote. NO need to mess up anything.
                                            Hope this helps someone.
                                            Have a nice day,

                                            Mario

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