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    Gertjan @adamw
    last edited by Gertjan Nov 28, 2018, 12:21 PM Nov 28, 2018, 12:18 PM

    @adamw said in webGUI log in extremely slow:

    I'm forced to keep at least one DNS server entry under System -> General Setup.

    No way !

    When you install pfSense : there are no DNS servers listed on System / General setup..
    When you install pfSense : the build in DNS is unbound or the Resolver. It will listen on all interfaces (including pfSense itself ;) ) for DNS requests, and ask the build in DNS servers (aha !!!!) for an answer.

    So, when you install pfSense, DNS works fine.

    The build in DNS servers are actually the 13 "root DNS servers" : if these servers go down all of them, or you can't reach then, yes ... thing will go bad for the entire planet earth. Their addresses (IPv4 and IPv6) are hard coded and known for life.

    This means : by default, if your ISP handed over some ISP servers : they will not be used by pfSEnse.
    This means that your DNS requests are not handed over to info harvest companies like "8.8.8.8" neither.

    Up to you to change what whatever you want, and in that case : don't leave home without testing your settings.

    @adamw said in webGUI log in extremely slow:

    Can you please white list me?

    That's another issue : see here for more info :
    https://forum.netgate.com/category/20/forum-feedback
    Are one of the mentioned situations (posts) familiar to you ? ((VPN) IP with bad reputation, etc ?)

    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      adamw
      last edited by Nov 28, 2018, 12:24 PM

      Hmm, why would it be my IP if I can post this?
      It's fussy about some content of my post (which is very typical).

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        adamw
        last edited by Nov 28, 2018, 12:28 PM

        To cut it short: I've added 2 DNS servers and after I remove one the other bin icon disappears (bug?).
        After removing DNS servers and references from config.xml manually logging in and browsing is fast.

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by Nov 28, 2018, 1:43 PM

          What are you trying to post a link or an image? Users get whitelisted for such attachments if the system thinks it might be spam after enough rep points.. 3 or 5... one of the admins could look up the specific points needed. As just mod do not have access to the backend to see.

          Help out, post some good stuff and people will give you a thumbs up and you will auto get whitelisted...

          As to your bug about removal of dns? yeah it will go down to just single listing you just remove the entry "make it blank" And make sure your system is not set to allow pulling dns from dhcp.

          Pfsense has zero use of any dns settings other than pointing to itself since out of the box as mentioned it resolves. Only if you are in some need of wanting to forward would you ever need to put dns servers in.. To be honest unless your isp is blocking dns, or your on a high latency sort of connection - think sat where its best to use the isp dns.. The typical user should just resolve..

          Sure there have been posts and even a guide on how to use tls in forwarding - NOT A FAN is what I will say about that ;) Its nice to have it as a feature sure - but its use case is limited if you ask me.. Some ISP injecting shit into your dns queries.. Choice in such a case would be change ISPs.. But yeah that is not always an option, but if users don't bitch with their dollars ISP not going to change their ways..

          Glad you got your slowness worked out..

          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
          Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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            Gertjan @johnpoz
            last edited by Gertjan Nov 28, 2018, 2:00 PM Nov 28, 2018, 2:00 PM

            @johnpoz said in webGUI log in extremely slow:

            What are you trying to post a link or an image?

            He probably doesn't know that this works :

            First : hit the

            0_1543413380979_a6657b14-3cae-4dd0-b454-d06d3bbf1c80-image.png

            Then, while your typing your post : hit Ctrl-V - also know as "paste".

            0_1543413459806_47c9c845-9be1-48e6-925c-4a7f5eddb8f5-image.png

            It's advisable to shrink wrap your image after a print screen, or, if you use Windows, use the build-in "Capture Tool".

            These image are stored on the pfSense / Netgate's web server (means : no upload problems), so the never get lost (or replaced by other images, or make forum browser a crawl when the image host server goes off line.

            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by Nov 28, 2018, 2:42 PM

              @gertjan said in webGUI log in extremely slow:

              so the never get lost

              I would agree with you - unless they change forum software ;) And the images don't come over correctly... Still have hope that they will at some point fix that. From my understanding their are still there just not displaying..

              An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
              If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
              Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
              SG-4860 25.07 | Lab VMs 2.8, 25.07

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                adamw @Gertjan
                last edited by Nov 28, 2018, 2:43 PM

                I didn't try to attach any images, just several lines of text, quotes and code.
                Anyway - my problem was down to DNS and is now solved.
                Thank you!

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by Nov 28, 2018, 2:45 PM

                  Kind of side track - but software that I have been using for years and just love... Best few bucks ever spent on software ;) I use it pretty much every single day.

                  http://www.faststone.org/FSCaptureDetail.htm

                  They still update it and it has all kinds of bells and whistles for taking screenshots.. It well worth the $20 that is for damn sure.

                  An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                  If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
                  Please don't Chat/PM me for help, unless mod related
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                    tanglaoya @johnpoz
                    last edited by Feb 27, 2019, 1:25 AM

                    @johnpoz

                    I had this problem too. I checked the update setting, the Dashboard auto-update Check was Disable, but I login webGUI is still slow.

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                      breakaway
                      last edited by Mar 4, 2019, 12:39 AM

                      I just logged in to ask this, but why does the DNS server have any bearing on the speed of the WebGUI? Why is the GUI relying on something (DNS) that has absolutely nothing to do with configuring the system?

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                        Gertjan @breakaway
                        last edited by Mar 4, 2019, 5:55 AM

                        @breakaway said in webGUI log in extremely slow:

                        configuring the system

                        The system isn't some desktop PC, but a firewall.
                        Not everybody has a huge pipe upstream, the other side or Internet. Some status info comes from the Internet.

                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                          breakaway
                          last edited by Mar 4, 2019, 7:20 AM

                          Then it just seems like bad design. It should show the elements that don’t require this info “from the internet” and show a placeholder that says something to the effect of “this info will be available shortly”.

                          This is like your web browser completely locking up because one site you’re browsing has a css sheet hosted on an overloaded server.

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                            Gertjan
                            last edited by Mar 4, 2019, 7:25 AM

                            You did see that the issue in this thread was resolved ?

                            No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                            Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                              lucasll
                              last edited by Jan 15, 2020, 7:17 PM

                              Hello.
                              I think this issue is https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8987
                              As workaround, you can apply the steps as indicated on https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8987

                              • Go to SERVICES - DNS RESOLVER - GENERAL SETTINGS
                              • Go to section HOST OVERRIDES. Clic ADD.
                              • Type these values:
                                host: ews
                                domain: netgate.com
                                ip: 127.0.0.1
                              • Clic SAVE.
                              • Clic APPLY SETTINGS.
                              • Clic top left corner (Pfsense logo) and dashboard loads very fast (no slow for 60 seconds)

                              I tried this workaround using a Pfsense server without Internet connection.

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