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      tiro_uspsss
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      Hello all!

      I have a PDF to view, to save typing heaps:

      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w7aUEO-G8JX8UqZ8RwtvNmfO7t3icnFr/view?usp=sharing

      so...
      blue lines = Cat5/6, to Netgear 24-port GbE switch, to modem, voila! internet, LAN etc, as it is, working now

      black lines = SFP+ DAC cables in the near future (I have one cable already)

      PC1 has a Chelsio T440 - a quad port SFP+ 10GbE NIC, it has pfsense support/drivers etc.

      What I would like PC1 to do is, simply act as a 10GbE switch for the other PCs - how do I configure pfsense as such?

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      • DerelictD
        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
        last edited by

        No. Just no. Get a 10G switch. pfSense is not a switch.

        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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          tiro_uspsss @Derelict
          last edited by

          @derelict didn't ask for your opinion, I asked how to do it.

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          • DerelictD
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
            last edited by

            The answer is don't.

            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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              tiro_uspsss @Derelict
              last edited by

              @derelict quit telling me what not to do with my hardware, your arrogance isn't needed

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              • DerelictD
                Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                last edited by

                Fine. https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/book/bridging/index.html

                Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                • chpalmerC
                  chpalmer
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                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgNpI6VAAhI
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHiucyRYX_w
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p39mFz7ORco

                  Watch this series.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    If you really do want to just bridge those connections then don't use pfSense. Or if you must for some other reason I'd disable pf if you want to get close to actual 10G throughput.

                    But generally... yeah this is a bad idea.

                    Steve

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                    • chrismacmahonC
                      chrismacmahon
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                      You have senior community members telling you not to do something; there is probably a reason for it.

                      What you are planning will add a level of complexity to the network, and won't work as you design it.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @tiro_uspsss
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @tiro_uspsss said in make pfsense box a 10GbE switch:

                        didn't ask for your opinion, I asked how to do it.

                        This just shows complete lack of understanding of what a public forum even is if you ask me.. Such posts make me miss the smite option ;)

                        I for sure don't give two shits to help him on any future questions that is for damn sure.. Bridging router interfaces doesn't = switch by any stretch of the imagination at all. Just plain BORKED...

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                          Flynn
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                          I mean I can imagine why using Pfsense as a switch ist stupid, but can someone give a little more insight as to why exactly? Apart from the throughput part, which is obviously gonna be nowhere near 10G I guess. Maybe someone can learn something here after all >.>

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                          • chpalmerC
                            chpalmer @Flynn
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                            @flynn

                            It is opinion. But educated opinion. And worth its weight in highly educated and experienced I.T. techs even if not everyone wants to hear it.

                            In my opinion there is at least a couple of reasons to do what the OP is looking to do and that is for lab testing/educational reasons. Or a quick set up while you wait for the "real" switch that you back ordered is being shipped such as I did here at this building.

                            I went the Vyos route myself (linked above) and used it successfully just over a week. But only because I needed multiple SPF ports and needed it live quickly.

                            Triggering snowflakes one by one..
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                              tiro_uspsss @chrismacmahon
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                              @chrismacmahon said in make pfsense box a 10GbE switch:

                              You have senior community members telling you not to do something; there is probably a reason for it.

                              What you are planning will add a level of complexity to the network, and won't work as you design it.

                              @johnpoz said in make pfsense box a 10GbE switch:

                              @tiro_uspsss said in make pfsense box a 10GbE switch:

                              didn't ask for your opinion, I asked how to do it.

                              This just shows complete lack of understanding of what a public forum even is if you ask me.. Such posts make me miss the smite option ;)

                              I for sure don't give two shits to help him on any future questions that is for damn sure.. Bridging router interfaces doesn't = switch by any stretch of the imagination at all. Just plain BORKED...

                              the amount of conclusion jumping, arrogant, high-nosed BS displayed by admins/mods/employees isn't boding well for PR.

                              NO WHERE did I say that I /didn't/ know it may very well suck.
                              Instead of posting something like:

                              "oh hey, do to that you'll need to bridge, link here... btw, it isn't recommended, pfsense sucks at switching"

                              no no no, you self-righteous p***ks simply post "NO" "don't do it"
                              acting like God himself, with-holding info despite being /respectfully/ asked for it
                              and for what? you come across that rude, you can't possibly convince that you are with-holding the info because you 'care about my hardware / pfsense experience'
                              my pfsense experience starts / started here. And if the forum 'owner' had 2-cents worth of decency, he'd fire the lot of you, you come across that pathetically up yourselves, it truly is mind boggling.

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                                tiro_uspsss
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                                I've reported three of you, despite your roles here on the forum

                                pull your heads out of your rear-ends

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/book/bridging/index.html

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    tiro_uspsss @Derelict
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                                    @derelict said in make pfsense box a 10GbE switch:

                                    https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/book/bridging/index.html

                                    yeah you already sent that AFTER I got stuck into you and reported you, well done

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      Actually I sent it days ago. This is a resend.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        Someone needs a time out.

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        • GrimsonG
                                          Grimson Banned @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz said in make pfsense box a 10GbE switch:

                                          I for sure don't give two shits to help him on any future questions that is for damn sure.. Bridging router interfaces doesn't = switch by any stretch of the imagination at all. Just plain BORKED...

                                          Well some people wear their "Idiot" badge with pride and tiro_uspsss seems to be among them, not much anyone can do about it. 😉

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                            last edited by

                                            Taken care of.

                                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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