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    • W
      Wastapi
      last edited by

      Hi,
      1-Is pfSense 2.4.4 compatible with 802.11ac?
      We have a card that is compatible, but when setting the wireless in pfSense we do not see this option.

      2-If we set to 802.11a we have 5.0Ghz, but the top speed we get is around 100Mbs only.

      3- Our card is: Ubit PCIE Wireless WiFi 300M Dual Band (2.4GHz/5GHz 300Mbps) PCI Express Adapter Network Card with 3.5dBi WiFi - WAE3400

      https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07K2V268M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

      Is this card ok?

      Please guide. Thanks!

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      • NogBadTheBadN
        NogBadTheBad
        last edited by

        No.

        Buy an access-point, FreeBSD support for Wi-Fi is a bit lacking.

        Andy

        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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        • W
          Wastapi
          last edited by

          Any recommendation?
          We're looking for SPEED more than range.
          Our WAN ISP can handle 230/30
          Thanks

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          • W
            Wastapi
            last edited by

            is this a good choice?
            https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00BUSDVBQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A3DWYIK6Y9EEQB

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            • NogBadTheBadN
              NogBadTheBad
              last edited by NogBadTheBad

              Buy a Ubiquity AP, they are flavour of the month round here.

              I have one of these:-

              https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-pro/

              https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012360487-UniFi-Getting-Started-with-the-UniFi-Mobile-App#2

              Do you have a switch that can do VLANS, if you do you can have multiple networks / SSIDs.

              If you have an old router that can do Wi-Fi you can switch off DHCP and use that as an AP if you want to do it on the cheap.

              Andy

              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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              • KOMK
                KOM @Wastapi
                last edited by

                @Wastapi No, that's a full router. You only want an access point. I have a Ubiquiti AP-AC-LR and it works great.

                https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lr/

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                  akuma1x
                  last edited by

                  The Ubiquity AP AC Lites work great as well. They're around $80 US each, from Amazon.

                  https://www.ui.com/unifi/unifi-ap-ac-lite/

                  Jeff

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    I also have a Ubiquiti AP-AC-LR and have had no problems with it. Great coverage.

                    The central management stuff is nice but I'm not totally convinced it's worth it if you only have one device. 😉

                    Steve

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                      tman222
                      last edited by tman222

                      While I use Ubiquiti Access Points myself, I recently setup a small network with a pfSense firewall where we just used one of these:

                      https://www.amazon.com/Dual-Band-Super-Fast-Gigabit-MU-MIMO-RT-ACRH13/dp/B01LXL1AR8

                      Decent specs too:
                      https://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-ACRH13

                      Even though it is a full router, it takes just a couple clicks in the administration interface to turn it into an AP. Unless you are looking to do things with VLAN's and multiple SSID's, this Asus unit provides great bang for the buck (and you won't need to worry about controller software that the Ubiquiti AP's require).

                      Hope this helps.

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                        Wastapi
                        last edited by

                        I do need to create an employee ssid and an isolated guest ssid.

                        The employees will have access to whoke network while guests should only have wan access

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                        • NogBadTheBadN
                          NogBadTheBad @Wastapi
                          last edited by

                          @Wastapi

                          You'll need a switch and AP that supports VLANS if you just want to use a single AP and firewall rules something like this:-

                          Screenshot 2019-04-10 at 09.13.44.png

                          Replace TEST net with the name of your Guest net n_ip_local is an alias that contains my local subnets.

                          Andy

                          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            You can do without a managed switch if you can connect the AP directly to the firewall in most cases.

                            Steve

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                              Wastapi
                              last edited by

                              Our topology

                              WAN - pfSense - Unmanaged Switch - Wifi Router (as AP)

                              -Employees would connect to Wifi Router with employee SSID get access to whole LAN
                              -Guests would connect to Wifi Router with Guest SSID get access wan only
                              -Employees would connect to Unmanaged Switch (wired) get access to whole LAN

                              Makes sense?

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                              • NogBadTheBadN
                                NogBadTheBad
                                last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                So the ethernet connection comes out the router to a switch and an AP is connected to a switch ?

                                How are you setting up this "Wifi Router"?

                                Andy

                                1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Until you actually test it it will be impossible to know if that unmanaged switch will pass the required VLAN from the AP to pfSense.
                                  Much better to either use a managed switch that definitely will pass VLANs oe connect the AP directly to pfSense.

                                  Steve

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                                    tman222 @Wastapi
                                    last edited by

                                    @Wastapi said in 802.11ac support:

                                    Our topology

                                    WAN - pfSense - Unmanaged Switch - Wifi Router (as AP)

                                    -Employees would connect to Wifi Router with employee SSID get access to whole LAN
                                    -Guests would connect to Wifi Router with Guest SSID get access wan only
                                    -Employees would connect to Unmanaged Switch (wired) get access to whole LAN

                                    Makes sense?

                                    The Asus Router administration software does allow the ability to enable a Guest Network and disable access from it to the local intranet:

                                    https://www.asus.com/support/FAQ/1009855/

                                    This would be one option if you're looking to keep things simple (e.g. just one LAN subnet) and don't need more advanced SMB/Enterprise capabilities (e.g. multiple VLAN's, subnets, SSID's, etc.)

                                    Hope this helps.

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                                      Wastapi
                                      last edited by

                                      Or should I install an extra LAN card on the pfSense to hold the AP?

                                      WAN - pfSense

                                      pfSense - Unmanaged Switch (for wired only)
                                      pfSense - AP (for wifi only)

                                      Yet I don't want to have a different AP for Guests and for Employees (budget)
                                      And I feel that placing the AP (a router) between the pfSense and the Unmanaged switch is weird.

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                                        tman222
                                        last edited by

                                        It depends how you want to set things up:

                                        Ideally LAN, WiFi, and WiFi Guest Networks would all be on separate subnet's (VLAN's) to allow for fine grained access control (since traffic would have to go across the firewall first for any of the subnets to speak with one another). However, if you want to keep things simple, you can put your WiFi and LAN clients on the same local subnet by using e.g. the router I linked to, turning it into AP, and then enabling the guest network on it for guest clients (which will only have access to the internet but not the local subnet).

                                        What security requirements do you have, and which type of setup do you prefer?

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                                        • NogBadTheBadN
                                          NogBadTheBad @Wastapi
                                          last edited by

                                          @Wastapi said in 802.11ac support:

                                          Or should I install an extra LAN card on the pfSense to hold the AP?

                                          Nope you'll need two APs if you do this.

                                          You need a switch that does VLANS and an AP that does VLANS.

                                          Drawing1.png

                                          Andy

                                          1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            You can just connect the AP directly to a NIC in pfSense and have multiple VLANs on that. You don't actually need a switch there.

                                            For most installs it's just much easier to use managed switches because of the physical locations involved. APs like to be up high in the center of the coverage area and firewall is probably nowhere near.

                                            Steve

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