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    • Alpha Radke
      Alpha Radke last edited by

      I BEEN LOOKING ALL OVER INTERNET FOR A DETAILED OPTION ON THAT WHILE INSTALLING BUT ALL USE AUTO INSTALL METHOD................

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      • KOM
        KOM last edited by

        Sorry, what?

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        • Alpha Radke
          Alpha Radke @KOM last edited by

          @KOM said in How to install this thing without formatting and erasing data:

          Sorry, what?

          Oh great

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          • Alpha Radke
            Alpha Radke @KOM last edited by

            @KOM do you know how do I install pfsense on my hard disk without erasing all my data or how do I choose an empty disk I created specially to install it on

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            • KOM
              KOM last edited by

              What is the actual problem that you are really trying to solve? Did you have a disk crash or some other major corruption issue you're trying to fix?

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              • Alpha Radke
                Alpha Radke @KOM last edited by Alpha Radke

                @KOM No I am just trying to install pfsense but can't continue since there's a message saying it will erase data and I can't lose my files

                So I have created an empty disk to install it on but manual partitioning doesn't work it keeps giving me errors so I have no other options but the auto install which will delete everything

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                • johnpoz
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                  just pull the disks other then the one you want to install to.. But yeah pfsense will wipe the disk it installs too.

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                  • jimp
                    jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate last edited by

                    pfSense is a stand-alone operating system that cannot run alongside another operating system. There is no safe way to run it on the same hardware as another OS with existing data.

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                    • Alpha Radke
                      Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by

                      @johnpoz bull? disks are on the same HDD

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                      • johnpoz
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by johnpoz

                        then that is not a disk is it - that is a partition.

                        If you want to install pfsense on a box you have some other OS running - then do so via your fav vm software.

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                        • Alpha Radke
                          Alpha Radke @jimp last edited by

                          @jimp Oh I thought it's just a custom firewall

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                          • jimp
                            jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate last edited by

                            It is a firewall operating system, it is not a software firewall you run on another OS like windows or Linux. It's meant to be a stand-alone firewall appliance.

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                            • johnpoz
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                              Its not a software firewall.. Its a highly modified version of freebsd to be firewall/router.

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                              • Alpha Radke
                                Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by Alpha Radke

                                @johnpoz Wait so all my network configurations are not active anymore when I open windows? but since when?? I want to use it to edit my internet connection more freely for my windows activities

                                Or is everything saved on my router ?

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                                • johnpoz
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by johnpoz

                                  What?? Dude I don't think you understand what pfsense actually is.. Its a firewall/router distro.. You can run it on any hardware you have or as a VM..

                                  It has ZERO to do with anything on your windows machine - ZERO!!!

                                  Maybe you should just stick to the box your isp gave you.. Pfsense is meant to replace your isp router, or the router you got from the computer store like linksys or belkin, dlink, netgear, etc..

                                  Or go in front of your isp device.. It doesn't replace anything on your windows machine..

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                                  • Alpha Radke
                                    Alpha Radke last edited by

                                    @johnpoz said in How to install this thing without formatting and erasing data:

                                    Pfsense is meant to replace your isp router

                                    That's why i want to install it on my machine to edit my network while using windows on same machine

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                                    • Alpha Radke
                                      Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by

                                      @johnpoz Ok let's say im installing pfsense on a different hard drive to config my network. Will my configuration be still active on the network used by windows on my other hard drive?

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                                      • johnpoz
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                        its has NOTHING to do with your network on windows..

                                        It would be your GATEWAY... Ie if you look on your windows machine and you see the gateway IP... That would be pfsense! It would be running on some box... Or as a VM... It has ZERO to do with anything on your windows machine - other than being the gateway your windows machine would point to.

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                                        • Alpha Radke
                                          Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by

                                          @johnpoz yes that's what im trying to know: windows network now will be under a firewall called pfsense lol which means configurations are done on my router (pfsense) and will be used by windows through the gateway

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                                          • johnpoz
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                            Dude I really think you are wanting to jump into the deep end of the pool.. But you don't even know how to dog paddle... And don't even know what the word swim means..

                                            What router do you have now? What is the make and model of it?

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                                            • stephenw10
                                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by stephenw10

                                              If you somehow managed to get pfSense installed to your machine without accidentally wiping Windows when you boot pfSense that machine will just be pfSense. Windows will not be running anywhere.

                                              If you need to do this on the same hardware you should install pfSense in a VM under HyperV or Virtual Box. Doing that is a lot more complex that using separate hardware but it will allow you to experiment with it.
                                              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/virtualization/virtualizing-pfsense-with-hyper-v.html

                                              Steve

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                                              • Alpha Radke
                                                Alpha Radke @stephenw10 last edited by

                                                @stephenw10 @johnpoz

                                                I have a https://www.tp-link.com/no/service-provider/dsl-router/td-w8951nd/

                                                I installed pfsense on usb drive and my first boot isn't nice

                                                Now Im stuck on a interfaces configuration loop.
                                                It says done on each interface and then goes back to asking for choosing interfaces, auto detection, and vlan installation

                                                Also it only uses wan to install, shows that it is up but can't detect or install lan and says it's down.

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                                                • stephenw10
                                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                                                  What NICs does it give as choices? Some don't work well with the autodetect, try just assigning it manually.

                                                  Steve

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                                                  • Alpha Radke
                                                    Alpha Radke @stephenw10 last edited by

                                                    @stephenw10 Yes I assigned it manually the only one available is re0 for WAN interface then after saying no to vlan and continuing installation it goes back to the start

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                                                    • stephenw10
                                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                                                      Would you like to assign VLANs should be the first question. Then enter re0 for the WAN. Then just hit enter to finish.

                                                      You will only have a single interface but you can investigate why it didn't detect the other NIC once it's booted.

                                                      Steve

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                                                      • Alpha Radke
                                                        Alpha Radke @stephenw10 last edited by Alpha Radke

                                                        @stephenw10 yes I know I just didn't write in order.
                                                        I have redone it now after restarting my PC same problem after clicking enter to finish it asks "do you want to proceed [yln]?" and I click enter again and it goes back to "should vlan be set up now [yln]?".... Am I in a critical situation rn XD

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                                                          • stephenw10
                                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                                                            Hmm, hard to know what might cause that. I can only imagine that happening if the interface it just assigned is lost for some reason or it's unable to save the config created.

                                                            I assume you are seeing this after booting from USB and installing successfully?

                                                            Steve

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                                                            • Alpha Radke
                                                              Alpha Radke @stephenw10 last edited by Alpha Radke

                                                              @stephenw10 yes it gives some unusual messages ig:

                                                              warning: configuration references interfaces that do not exist: em0 em1

                                                              network interface mismatch -- running interface assignment option

                                                              Mismatch?

                                                              I have rebooted from the pfsense USB installer after installing successfully to the USB pfsense installed on

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                                                              • Alpha Radke
                                                                Alpha Radke last edited by

                                                                Oh my USB is just 8gb is that enough for pfsense ?

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                                                                • Alpha Radke
                                                                  Alpha Radke last edited by Alpha Radke

                                                                  Oh looks like re0 for WAN is (down).....

                                                                  But it's the only interface under "valide interfaces are"

                                                                  And it lets me assign it normally for WAN

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                                                                  • stephenw10
                                                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator last edited by

                                                                    The fact it's still referencing em0 and em1 means it's still trying to use the default config.

                                                                    The installer itself will fit on 1GB. Did you boot from one USB stick and install onto a different USB stick?

                                                                    It seems like it's possibly still booting at least partially from the installer which might be why it's using the default config.

                                                                    Steve

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                                                                    • johnpoz
                                                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                                                      So now your trying to install it on your PC via a usb stick as its drive What do you think that is going to get you?

                                                                      If you want to play with it - install it on a VM!!!

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                                                                      • Alpha Radke
                                                                        Alpha Radke @stephenw10 last edited by

                                                                        @stephenw10 I made sure it's installing from the USB not the USB installer by removing it still showing em0 and em1

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                                                                        • Alpha Radke
                                                                          Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by Alpha Radke

                                                                          @johnpoz what's the difference if I'm keeping the USB connected or closing the vm after configurating the network? Back to my first question about configuration activity lol

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                                                                          • johnpoz
                                                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                                                            OMG dude you don't get what psfsense does if you think you can just close it down once you have "configured" something..

                                                                            See that router you linked too - that is what pfsense does... If you turned off your router could you get to the internet??

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                                                                            • Alpha Radke
                                                                              Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by

                                                                              @johnpoz oh so I have to keep VM running... That's not good for my core i5 lol

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                                                                              • johnpoz
                                                                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                                                                What exactly are you wanting to accomplish exactly... Cuz you clearly do not understand what pfsense even is.

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                                                                                • Alpha Radke
                                                                                  Alpha Radke @johnpoz last edited by

                                                                                  @johnpoz if I don't understand what pfsense is then why would I be trying to install it XD I just didn't understand how it basically works and you made it clear to me

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                                                                                  • johnpoz
                                                                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                                                                                    Please what did you think pfsense was going to do for you "exactly"...

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