Well, I finally got forced into this when my system would not respond to http://192.169.1.1 . I decided to install Fedora on the drives. And then install 2.8.1. Well that worked out until something got weird with TAC, and it seems it doesn't understand that I'm running the Community Edition. BUT I have been battling this off and on since about 9AM this morning and finally it is working at 10:39 PM US Eastern. I've had all the fun I can handle for today. But thought I'd report in once I got this done. Tchuess.