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Firewall Rule to Allow RDP from WAN to LAN......Need help

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    DINU
    last edited by DINU Sep 24, 2019, 3:05 AM Sep 24, 2019, 2:47 AM

    Hi everyone,

    Here is my setup -

    Airtel Internet Modem -->Asus RT-AX88U Wireless Router --->PFsense-->LAN and DMZ

    so basically I have a Airtel Modem(192.168.10.1) connected to a hardware router IP- 192.168.50.1 which is connected to Pfsense IP 192.168.50.100(Virtual Machine in Vmware Workstation)

    The WAN IP for the Pfsense is 192.168.50.100 and the LAN IP is 192.168.30.1

    I have port forwarded port 3389 from Hardware router (Asus RT-AX88U) to the LAN ip- 192.168.30.30.(ie)Also have a the matching port forward rule 192.168.50.109(Machine trying RDP) to 192.168.30.30.

    There is a default rule in LAN that says from LAN Net any thing can go any where on any port. I have created a WAN rules that reads:

    Protocol Source Source port Destination Destination Port Gateway
    TCP any any 192.168.30.30 3389 default

    do I need to Setup any NAT from WAN to LAN or some thing I have missing here...

    Pls advise...

    Thanks,

    DINU

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz Sep 24, 2019, 3:01 AM Sep 24, 2019, 3:00 AM

      @DINU said in Firewall Rule to Allow RDP from WAN to LAN......Need help:

      do I need to Setup any NAT from WAN to LAN or some thing I have missing here...

      You want to allow RDP from the public internet? Yeah that is BAD freaking idea, have you not been paying attention to the news?

      Are you going to lock down the source to a specific IP? If you need to rdp to boxes on your network from outside, I highly suggest you VPN into your network.

      You have a triple nat there.. So yeah you would have to forward traffic from your "modem" to your Asus, and then from Asus to pfsense, and then from pfsense to your end IP.

      But again I highly suggest you rethink doing such a thing.

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        DINU
        last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:04 AM

        I am not looking to RDP from Public internet... I am trying to RDP from WAN(Private IP) to LAN IP

        My WAN IP is private IP (ie) 192.168.50.X and trying to RDP LAN IP (ie) 192.168.30.X

        to Access from public internet I will create Open VPN.. that setup yet to configure...

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:05 AM

          If you want to rdp to something behind pfsense, then yes you have to create port forward in pfsense. If source hitting pfsense wan is also rfc1918, you would also have to disable the default block of rfc1918 address in pfsense.

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            DINU
            last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:07 AM

            Already both Block private networks and loopback addresses & Block bogon networks in WAN have been untick...

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:08 AM

              And did you allow for rdp from a remote network in your host? Out of the box windows firewall not going to allow rdp from something not on the local network.

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                DINU
                last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:12 AM

                My NAT rule as follows :

                Interface Protocol Source Address Source Ports Dest. Address Dest. Ports NAT IP NAT Ports
                WAN TCP * * LAN net 3389 (MS RDP) 192.168.30.30 3389 (MS RDP)

                yes in host RDP access is allowed...

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                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                  last edited by Derelict Sep 24, 2019, 3:17 AM Sep 24, 2019, 3:15 AM

                  Don't set a source port.

                  You had to go pretty deep into advanced settings and ignore warnings to get to that point.

                  I'd have to see a diagram to see if setting the source network of LAN net is applicable. It probably should not be set either.

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                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                    DINU
                    last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:20 AM

                    Source port is not set it is any (*)

                    Let me check the advanced settings...

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                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by Derelict Sep 24, 2019, 3:22 AM Sep 24, 2019, 3:21 AM

                      How abouts you post an actual screen capture of the rule instead of a textual approximation of the same.

                      And there are two parts to a port forward. The NAT/PAT rule and the firewall rule. Best you post both.

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                        DINU
                        last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 3:33 AM

                        Attach firewall rule & NAT == > WAN
                        Port_forward_WAN.jpg Firewall_Rule_WAN.jpg

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                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by Derelict Sep 24, 2019, 3:53 PM Sep 24, 2019, 3:51 PM

                          OK so you have a port forward on WAN with a destination address of LAN Net. How exactly do you expect that to work?

                          Why did you set the rule association to Pass? No docs state to do that.

                          And you are forcing the connection out WAN by setting that gateway on the rule.

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                            DINU
                            last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 4:06 PM

                            Any update ???

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz Sep 24, 2019, 4:10 PM Sep 24, 2019, 4:09 PM

                              Update? How exactly do you expect such a mess to work??

                              If you have questions about what something is or means, you need to ask.. Don't just go random clicking shit and picking stuff from the drop down..

                              To create a port forward in pfsense, really the only thing you have to touch is the port, redirect port, and the IP you want to send it too.. Everything else is going to be pretty much default.

                              And let the port forward create the firewall rule - which is default..

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                                chpalmer
                                last edited by chpalmer Sep 24, 2019, 4:14 PM Sep 24, 2019, 4:13 PM

                                Turn the firewall off on the machine that your are trying to RDP into.

                                It will treat anything outside its own subnet as public and block it.

                                Your post with the graphic looks correct although MS recommends a TCP/UDP connection. I do not believe I ever have though. I normally do not leave such a rule in place any longer than I need it.

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by johnpoz Sep 24, 2019, 4:19 PM Sep 24, 2019, 4:18 PM

                                  ^ looks correct? What are you looking at? It sure not the mess he posted.. Has gateway set on his wan rule, the dest is Lan Net vs wan address in his port forward.

                                  Here is the 3 things that need to be touched to port forward rdp

                                  portforward.png

                                  That is it, don't touch anything else - the defaults are all you need. It will create the firewall rule for you. You just need to make sure you turn off the default block rfc1918 rule because your source is actually rfc1918.

                                  edit: Lets get tcp working before he worries about having a UDP connection ;) But sure if he wanted he could change it from default of tcp to tcp/udp.

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                                    DINU
                                    last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 4:33 PM

                                    I have tried with NAT Rule that did not helped so used PASS and took the screen shot at that time..

                                    In one of the forum in netgate to mentioned gateway instead of default so I have tried that as well whether it may help...

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                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 4:35 PM

                                      List of things to check is here:

                                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/nat/port-forward-troubleshooting.html

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                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz Sep 24, 2019, 5:09 PM Sep 24, 2019, 5:08 PM

                                        It should take you like 2 minutes top to trouble shoot a port forward..

                                        Sniff on wan, do you see traffic to 3389? Sniff on Lan - do you see pfsense sending 3389 on to IP you want to send it to..

                                        If you do - your problem is prob firewall on host your sending too, maybe rdp isn't even listening? Maybe it is using a different gateway other than pfsense? Maybe where you wanted to send it is now on a different IP? etc. etc..

                                        Troubleshooting a port forward does not mean randomly changing settings ;)

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                                          MoonKnight
                                          last edited by Sep 24, 2019, 5:12 PM

                                          Hi,
                                          And make sure you have enabled "Remote Desktop" on your computer you are trying to RDP :)

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