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    • Sergei_ShablovskyS
      Sergei_Shablovsky @Gertjan
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      @gertjan said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

      Still, if a WAN type interface is assigned during boot, that is, there is one according the systems configuration settings, but you removed the physical interface, it's a basic "maintaining the patient while doing open hart surgery". Normal that the patient needs some cardiac assistance while doing so.

      ;) Thank You for trying to support me by making a little more smiley:) Now in Ukraine when You hearing sound alarm about bombing each 3-4h, hard to be normal...
      So, because I need some “cardiac assistance”, I come to this “Hardware” section of Netgate forum :)

      Changing NICs is normally not done every morning ;)
      Yes, You are right, but as I wrote before in other threads:

      • time goes faster and faster each year, and 10 years ago we change NICs on a production once in 3-5 years, but now , after traffic become more and more heavy due streaming and hi-res cameras + social networks, we pushed to change NICs and applience each 2-3 years;
      • Netgate (even in CE edition) need to be responsible for product quality, and making ordinary maintenance procedures painless and as simply as possible both for newbies and for pro system administrators;

      From that points of view most usable operation like changing NICs **must be troubles free and as simply as possible, and also well and detailed described in documentation”.

      Anyway, from newbies, students and youth Technishian/ Sys Admins that using pfSense CE edition on a custom built DIY hardware at the first steps, after 2-3-5 years become a PRO sys admins / security admins in Enterprise and more and more buying Netgate official hardware and support plans.

      So, well and detailed documented common maintenance operation + good code in pfSense that support painful maintenance become investments in a future company market grow and revenue

      Agree?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Sergei_Shablovsky
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        @sergei_shablovsky said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

        To bring up the console menu run: /etc/rc.initial

        BSD told me that I have no sufficient permission...

        Hmm, not a root shell then.

        Were you able to disable Unbound in the config? Is it stuck somewhere else now?

        Steve

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        • Sergei_ShablovskyS
          Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

          You could try editing the config at the prompt to disable Unbound and then rebooting.

          I manually disable Unbound and have access from desired (office_lan) port to internet.
          BUT in webGUI all installed packages disappear and no ability to check pfSense updates through GUI menu and from CLI by pkg update / pkg upgrade

          Or you could try to rerun /etc/rc.

          Doing this after disabling Unbound and rebooting. Double twice checking all connections and port naming, assigning, etc.

          What NIC did you replace and what did you put in instead?

          2-head NIC
          on
          2-head NIC

          The same manufacturer
          The same place on motherboard
          The same speed 1G

          only MACs are different, of coarse

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            The fact it's failing to boot could just be coincidence. When was it last rebooted before this?
            Replacing a NIC with the same type should make no difference to pfSense. And indeed it is booting past the interfaces check.
            Did you try enabling Unbound again once it booted? Did it show any errors?

            Steve

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            • Sergei_ShablovskyS
              Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

              The fact it's failing to boot could just be coincidence. When was it last rebooted before this?
              Replacing a NIC with the same type should make no difference to pfSense. And indeed it is booting past the interfaces check.

              I also disappointed, so wrote question to this forum. :)

              Did you try enabling Unbound again once it booted? Did it show any errors?

              No any errors in log.

              Anyway, after a lot of trying, I

              • backup all that have in a backup list;
              • clean system from dust (anyway that may be done by schedule) and clean all contacts of all components;
              • completely retest hardware (by own test soft, from embedded tests to special pack)
                NO ANY ISSUES

              So, than try to install pfSense on bare metal server. And what I found: 2.6.0-STABLE unable to install, stuck in the moment of interfere with NICs, but 2.7.x - installed without any problems

              Also at this point I see that 2.7.x-DEVELOPMENT

              • recognize details in NICs (but anyway igb(4) driver used);
              • give a little bit less loading on system;

              Thank You, Steve and all others here for help.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @Sergei_Shablovsky
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                @sergei_shablovsky said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

                2.6.0-STABLE unable to install, stuck in the moment of interfere with NICs

                Actually in the installer or first boot after install?

                The installer doesn't doesn't use the NICs so if it;s failing to boot the installer it must be some pretty low level incompatibility. Somehow that doesn't happen in 2.7 so maybe a PCI bridge the needs a newer driver? Just a guess.

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                • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                  Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

                  @sergei_shablovsky said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

                  2.6.0-STABLE unable to install, stuck in the moment of interfere with NICs

                  Actually in the installer or first boot after install?

                  Right after booting from pfSense memstick CE. So even not possible to doing installing.

                  The installer doesn't doesn't use the NICs so if it;s failing to boot the installer it must be some pretty low level incompatibility. Somehow that doesn't happen in 2.7 so maybe a PCI bridge the needs a newer driver? Just a guess.

                  I come to the same conclusion as a You. But anyway that are strange because the first NIC I replace not impact on pfSense so dramatically: all become not so good after I replace the next NIC...

                  So spending hours to “playing” with different settings in a BIOS that may be related / impact on PCI at all. But as You may read, unsuccessfully at all.
                  So, after my patience gone out, I just create fresh memstick with pfSense 2.7.0-DEV and install it.

                  Anyway, time to shift to 2.7.X...

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                  • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                    Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10
                    Some new problem with upgrade come, please read Unable to update and package install (ERROR: It was not possible to identify which pfSense kernel is installed) in “Installing...” section ;) Thank You!

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      That often implies it did not actually reboot. Mismatched kernel and world.

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                      • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                        Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

                        That often implies it did not actually reboot. Mismatched kernel and world.

                        You mean this tread?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          I mean sometimes if there's a problem during the upgrade it will fail to reboot at the end of the process. Are you sure it rebooted?

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                          • Sergei_ShablovskyS
                            Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

                            I mean sometimes if there's a problem during the upgrade it will fail to reboot at the end of the process. Are you sure it rebooted?

                            Let’s to note, normally I make 3 times repeated checks, before posting here ;)

                            So answer is “Yes, I am sure on 99,999%” ;)

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Ok, so, as the linked thread, whay does pkg info show?

                              You probably have some packages missing, likely the pfSense metapackage, and will need to force install them.

                              Steve

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                                Sergei_Shablovsky @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 said in Replace 2 port with 4 port nic card:

                                Ok, so, as the linked thread, whay does pkg info show?

                                A lot of installed packages. All ok.

                                You probably have some packages missing, likely the pfSense metapackage, and will need to force install them.

                                Of coarse I check metapackage, exist. How to ensure that all is ok with this metapackage?

                                P.S. Could we move to appropriate thread, new that I create?
                                There are more information there that may help to determine a source of a problem... ;)

                                And also may be possible for a You as administrator to move the new thread to another than “”Install and Upgrade” forum category, due it not related to Installaation/Upgrade procedure exactly

                                Thanks a lot for Your help!

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Done. Continue in the other thread.

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