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    JKnott @fireodo
    last edited by JKnott Apr 13, 2023, 6:24 PM Apr 13, 2023, 6:07 PM

    @fireodo

    No, mine was direct connect. I had to dial the phone, switch the modem to originate and then hang up the phone.

    BTW, there's a bit of a story to how I got it. One day, my wife visited my office, where I showed her the "Adventure" game on a VAX 11/780 computer. She asked if I could put it on my computer, an IMSAI 8080. I said no, but if we had a modem... I was soon the proud owner of a 300B manual modem. πŸ˜‰

    Adventure is still available, at least on Linux, in the BSD games package. I've even installed it on a Chromebook.

    "You are standing at the end of a road before a small brick building.
    Around you is a forest. A small stream flows out of the building and
    down a gully."

    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
    UniFi AC-Lite access point

    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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      fireodo @JKnott
      last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 6:10 PM

      @jknott said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

      BTW, there's a bit of a story to how I got it. One day, my wife visited my office, where I showed her the "Adventure" game on a VAX 11/780 computer. She asked if I could put it on my computer, an IMSAI 8080. I said no, but if we had a modem... I was soon the proud owner of a 300B manual modem.

      Good Old Times ... 😁 We have to stop and not capture the thread ...

      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
      pfsense 2.8.0 CE
      Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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        alirz @stephenw10
        last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 6:27 PM

        @stephenw10 well there isn't. I only see an option to set the baud rate for serial communications.
        That being said, i was able to see serial output in securecrt, putty doesn't seem to work for me.

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          JonathanLee @ageis
          last edited by JonathanLee Apr 14, 2023, 8:47 PM Apr 14, 2023, 6:38 PM

          @ageis You can set up a usb connection and use a program like putty to access the command prompt. You have to set the baud rate also that route just like old DB-9 console cables.

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            JKnott @JonathanLee
            last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:15 PM

            @jonathanlee said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

            just like old db9 DE-9 console cables.

            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
            UniFi AC-Lite access point

            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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              JonathanLee @JKnott
              last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:48 PM

              @jknott do you remember the DB-25 on the back of that us robotics modem that was used for out of band? You needed an adapter to connect to it with the Cisco rollover blue cable.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @alirz
                last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:48 PM

                @alirz said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                I only see an option to set the baud rate for serial communications.

                You would see that if it's a serial console only install. What are you running on? What image did you install from?

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                  alirz @stephenw10
                  last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:53 PM

                  @stephenw10 I am running the serial console image. As I mentioned I did get the serial console working in securecrt app, not in putty. That being said I don’t see any option to turn serial console on/off under the admin access page.
                  Anyways, my issue is resolved even if the toggle is missing.

                  Another question though. Can a serial image install be set to use vga as primary output and vice versa? Is there a setting to control that. Let’s say I want to hook up a monitor and would like to use the vga output?

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:59 PM

                    Yes, like I said on the serial only image there is no option to disable the serial console by default. Otherwise you could easily lock yourself out. πŸ˜‰

                    Try removing the file: /cf/conf/enableserial_force.
                    That should allow you see the console options.

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                      JKnott @JonathanLee
                      last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 9:03 PM

                      @jonathanlee said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                      do you remember the DB-25 on the back of that us robotics modem that was used for out of band?

                      Yep, I have both a USR Courier modem and blue Cisco cable here. However, that DB-25 wasn't used for out of band, it was used for the data. Initially personal computers used DB-25 connectors, but switched to the DE-9 with the IBM AT.

                      BTW, my IMSAI 8080 had a bunch of holes punched in the back panel, for DB-25 connectors. I used 3 of 'em. Back in those days, I was also working with modems at customer sites.

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                        JKnott @alirz
                        last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 9:08 PM

                        @alirz said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                        Can a serial image install be set to use vga as primary output and vice versa?

                        Yep. That's what I have here. My pfSense box is connected to both my USB/HDMI KVM switch and can also connect via serial cable. It's been a couple of years since I set it up, so I don't recall the details, but the serial port definitely works. I had to use a gender bender cable to connect the computers, as they both have male connectors.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          alirz @JKnott
                          last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 11:52 PM

                          @jknott well in my case, I have serial image version of pfsense installed. I notice that on the vga output, the display stops updating at some point of the boot process, however I get the full output in the serial console till the boot is finished. Is that normal? That's why I was wondering if I could flip between serial vs vga as primary output modes?

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                            alirz @stephenw10
                            last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 11:55 PM

                            @stephenw10 said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                            Yes, like I said on the serial only image there is no option to disable the serial console by default. Otherwise you could easily lock yourself out. πŸ˜‰

                            Try removing the file: /cf/conf/enableserial_force.
                            That should allow you see the console options.

                            Cool thanks will check that out. Is it also possible to force vga as primary mode via a similar method for a serial.inage?

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 11:59 PM

                              That is normal if serial is set as the primary console.

                              No there is no force file for vga.

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                                JKnott @alirz
                                last edited by JKnott Apr 15, 2023, 1:04 AM Apr 15, 2023, 1:01 AM

                                @alirz said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                                Is that normal?

                                I've never seen that.

                                You mentioned it locks up in VGA. That might be a hardware issue.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                  JonathanLee @JKnott
                                  last edited by Apr 15, 2023, 1:58 AM

                                  @jknott The earliest computer I had was an At&t PC6300 it had a DB-9 for the keyboard, monochrome guy. I also remember my Tandy 102 my uncle got us one christmas had a DB25 on the back. My Dad had a Commodore 64 I never got to play with it. The thing was disconnected by the time I was able to. Again, the monitor was dead that went with it and it was outdated at that point but that guy had some connections on the back also. Today I have the C64 mini so I got to play with it in the end, Thank you Santa!!!

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