New package: pimd
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I created a package for
pimd, which is a multicast routing daemon. I don't have a use case for it here, but we've had requests for it due to various shortcomings inigmpproxy. This is primarily to replace the role of the built-in IGMP Proxy function, it is not a replacement for Avahi.You might have seen references to
pimdpop up in threads for things like SONOS speakers, IPTV, etc.It is now available for all users on 2.4.4-p3 as well as 2.4.5 & 2.5.0 snapshots.
It should be possible to create any valid
pimdconfiguration using the GUI alone, and likely some invalid ones. There is input validation but it's unlikely to catch everything. Raw config should not be necessary since the config format is so basic and all possibilities are covered by the GUI.Since the package is new, feel free to use this thread to give related feedback for whatever comes up initially (failures, typos, etc). Eventually I'll lock this down and new issues will go in separate threads.
EDIT: Now available on 2.4.4-p3.
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I can not think of when I personally would need this - but its great to see expansion of capabilities.. And thanks Jim for heads up and info.. Sure many are grateful for your effort and contributions..
I will have to find a way to test it out once 2.4.5 or 2.5 are live..
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@johnpoz
those that like doing "large scale" OS deployments might like it. If you get it work, multicast wds is nice.in the past i've moved the deployment-server to the corresponding client-vlan to be able to use broadcasts because i've never managed to get igmp-snooping & multicasts working correctly
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FYI- This is now showing up to install on 2.4.5 and 2.5.0 snapshots. If you don't see it, update to the latest snapshot and check again.
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Thanks! Hopefully will try at the weekend to update to 2.4.5-snapshot and try it out. With gaining access to the media VLAN without switching WiFis would be great.
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Seems to be working OK so I enabled it for 2.4.4-p3 as well, so anyone can install it now.
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Seems to be working between interfaces on both my lab routers. I intend to connect two routers together and see if I can get traffic from one LAN to the other through a third LAN. But so far so good.
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@chpalmer I'm complete new to this, is it possible to share some basic setup tip?
I'm trying to have my Media Vlan working (Sonos, TV and Google chrome cast) but no luck so far
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Still working on it myself..
Seems when I updated snapshots I had to go back into the config page and hit "save" to get the package to "work" again.
Even though its running Ive had no success as of yet with a multicast test program.. But I am trying to traverse two routers each connected to the other with a /30 subnet.
I need to test more when I have time.
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@jimp firstly thank you! awesome that you've made PIMD available as a package, really appreciated!
I currently have a working Sonos implementation running over split VLAN's, using PIMD (manually installed as a package at OS level) and working perfectly.
This PIMD package installed perfectly on 2.4.4-RELEASE-p3 for me, however for some reason it's not working like the OS installed version of PIMD does. I'll do some debugging today and figure out why.
UPDATE
Manually configuring an RP address seems to have resolved my issue, now fully operation with Sonos discovering speakers on separate VLAN.
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@msass there's a couple of elements to this in my experience, one is getting multicast working across VLAN's but you'll probably need some rules tuning as well (depending on how locked down your connectivity is between VLAN's).
In terms of configuring PIMD, I'd suggest starting with a fully open configuration and then starting to lock it down. If you've installed PIMD then then change "Default Bind" to "Bind to All" and enable it. If that then gets everything working you'll need to start locking it down, as I wouldnt recommend having it running on, for example, your external interface.
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@PacketMan Could you show us in more detail what you did to make it work for the Sonos devices or PM me
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@Qinn said in New package: pimd:
@PacketMan Could you show us in more detail what you did to make it work for the Sonos devices or PM me
I'd be happy to help but probably easier if you tell me how far you've got and I help debug your setup. Most of my setup I did 18 months ago so it's not all fresh, do you have PIMD installed and are you seeing any multicast routes appear?
UPDATE I've just found your other posts so I know you're further on, have you added a RP address? I didn't need to add the multicast group and the address has to be one reachable from all VLAN's.
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https://forum.netgate.com/topic/139218/sonos-speakers-and-applications-on-different-subnets-vlan-s/102 just to be sure could you add a screenshot of your setting or if you don't want to share it publicly PM it to me, thanks.
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@jimp just testing out the package on 2.4.4-p3. When stopping/restarting I see a few of these:
/status_services.php: The command '/usr/local/etc/rc.d/pimd.sh stop' returned exit code '1', the output was ''every time the service is stopped. Perhaps a little error/oversight in the package?
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@JeGr said in New package: pimd:
When stopping/restarting I see a few of these:
Might be something we can avoid, not sure what might be causing that off the top of my head, though. It tries to shut down pimd nicely and then attempts to kill anything left over, but I didn't think either of those steps would cause the whole script to exit with an error like that.
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@jimp Also seem to have the problem that the package doesn't save its configuration in all dialogues right. Added/removed RP adresses by trial and error and even after removing all entries, the package restarted with "load static rp x.y.z.a". Only saving in the general settings after all removal and restarting seemed to solve that. There definitely seem to be config issues with adding/removing things.
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2.5 after a reboot-
PIMD is enabled but not running. Check the configuration.
I have to go hit save on the main PIMD screen to get this-
Virtual Interface Table ======================================================
Vif Local Address Subnet Thresh Flags Neighbors
0 24.xx.xxx.xxx 24.xx.48/20 1 DISABLED
1 192.168.1.1 192.168.1 16 DR NO-NBR
2 10.50.1.1 10.50.1/30 16 PIM 10.50.1.2
3 192.168.1.1 register_vif0 1Vif SSM Group Sources
Multicast Routing Table ======================================================
--------------------------------- (,,G) ------------------------------------
Number of Groups: 0
Number of Cache MIRRORs: 0 -
@Qinn said in New package: pimd:
https://forum.netgate.com/topic/139218/sonos-speakers-and-applications-on-different-subnets-vlan-s/102 just to be sure could you add a screenshot of your setting or if you don't want to share it publicly PM it to me, thanks.
There would be no value in me sharing my PIMD setup, all I have done is enabled it, added the two interfaces (with no other config) and then an RP address (again none of the other fields).
I think there's something in the RP address, someone used the Sonos speaker as the RP address but I suspect the problem is the reachable of the RP address from both subnets. The VLAN my speakers are on can't access the LAN for which the clients are on but I have a third interface/VLAN which is reachable by both and I put the IP address of the pfsense box as the RP address within that globally reachable VLAN.
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Just pushed out pimd version 0.0.2:
- Fixed bonus tabs in status output
- Fixed input validation of RP Candidate entries to allow empty group prefix
- Fixed sync on delete for entries on tabs
- Fixed error in stop script
- Fixed shortcuts on config tabs other than 'General'
It should be available now (or in a few moments, anyhow) for 2.4.4-p3, and with the next snapshot run for others.
